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March 10th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

Client 9 from outer space: Spitzer news open thread

You know you want to discuss it, so go ahead (news reference).

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    Best line heard so far, adapted from comment at Reason “Hit and Run”: “Hooker admits Spitzer link, quits escort service in disgrace”.

    Walter Olson on March 10th, 2008
  • 2

    Daddy, that pretty lady isn’t Mrs. Spitzer.

    Ralph Wiggum on March 10th, 2008
  • 3

    I’ve been watching this from the beginning and I can’t find anyone who knows for sure that Spitzer is “Client #9.” They asked Greta Van Sustren how she knew this and her response was “I don’t. I only know that because that’s what our network has been reporting”

    At first he was being indicted, then it turns out it was only a complaint and the governor’s name wasn’t even named. Then he had resigned, then they decided he hadn’t resigned. Then we find out rather than running the prostitution ring, he was a customer, merely a misdemeanor offense that typically carries a mere fine. After all this uncertainly, I don’t necessarily believe the news organizations reporting that he is “Customer #9″

    Jim Thomlonson on March 10th, 2008
  • 4

    I know no one ever accuses the NYT of media bias; they’ve cemented their reputation in objective journalism and live as standard bearer for future generations of reporters. But I found it odd that it was not until the last few paragraphs in which his party affiliation is presented, and it requires an inference (albeit a small one) to determine his line. Maybe it’s just me being hyper-vigilant. Yes, I believe that must be the case.

    Todd Rogers on March 10th, 2008
  • 5

    Jim, while he may not be Customer #9, he apparently was involved enough in some misdeeds to schedule a teary eyed new conference. I suggest you read the NYT article, it points out that co-ordinating prostitution across state lines carries some heavier fines.

    Faloi on March 10th, 2008
  • 6

    What I’m hearing is that he thought he was going to be attending a small, exclusive seminar about effective campaigning techniques in the face of complete local media buy-in, and the associated ethical boundaries, but realized too late that what sounded like “snow job” was actually something else.

    Either that, or his aides did it.

    Bob B on March 10th, 2008
  • 7

    The taller you stand, the harder you fall.

    Jason Barney on March 10th, 2008
  • 8

    Todd you piqued my curiosity and I checked the NY Times archives to see how they reported the Senator Craig incident and found they didn’t mention his party affiliation until the last paragraph as well - just kidding!! It is in the first line

    “Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican of Idaho, was arrested…”
    August 28, 2007 - By THE NEW YORK TIMES - U.S. - 465 words

    Jim Thomlonson on March 10th, 2008
  • 9

    For Reason H&R comments, I’m partial to “The only thing that could make this more scandalous would be if it was revealed that he enjoyed a cigarette afterwards.”

    I’m also wondering what a $1300/hour prostitute would consider to be so sexually dangerous that she needed to be warned beforehand, but that’s just prurience.

    Ted on March 10th, 2008
  • 10

    Inasmuch as President Bush has been blamed for 9/11, Al Qaida in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, Global Warming and virtually every other ill in our world; doubtless the NYTimes will soon feature an article about the hazards of dispensing Viagra to seniors under the Bush-proposed prescription assistance plan - thereby linking President Bush to Spitzer’s urge to seek the company of prostitutes.

    William Oppenheimer on March 10th, 2008
  • 11

    It’s the week of prostitution stings:

    Former Judge Tills resigns amid FBI prostitution investigation.

    http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/294809.html

    Steve on March 10th, 2008
  • 12

    Not to mention the reported investigation of federal judge Nottingham, nicknamed “Naughty”, in Colorado.

    Walter Olson on March 10th, 2008
  • 13

    Wish he had put some of that energy into getting more high tech jobs for the Capitol District Area. We should all sue for our lack of jobs up here… At least the hookers get paid…

    unhacker on March 10th, 2008
  • 14

    Imagine that…. who can he find to blame - that’s the american way, isn’t it?

    CM on March 10th, 2008
  • 15

    It will be amusing to watch which politicians call for his immediate resignation and which ones bite their tongue to avoid claims of future hypocrisy if they ever find themselves in the same position. It has been well-chronicled that prostitution is far more prevalent in Washington than one might be led to believe by the public outcry we will certainly see over the next few days.

    Jim Thomlonson on March 10th, 2008
  • 16

    My favorite line was “Spitzer vows not to rest until he puts self behind bars.”

    Jkoerner on March 10th, 2008
  • 17

    Dealbreaker is running good stuff.

    And on another blog, a commenter imagines the phone call Spitzer must have made to Hillary Clinton at 3 a.m.

    Ted on March 10th, 2008
  • 18

    Ironically, it appears that the feds found the prostitution service because they were suspicious of Spitzer’s large payments to their front.

    Ted on March 10th, 2008
  • 19

    I object to this trivial lawyer gotcha. This illegality where no harm occurs may even violate Lawrence v Texas.

    He will not get charged for the damage done to the economy by his unjust attacks on productive sectors of the economy, as NY Attorney General.

    This gotcha approach represents lawyer bad faith. The infraction is a pretext, a false use of a trivial infraction.

    I suggest ending all immunities for the huge damage done in litigation.

    On the other hand, he used pretextual gotchas. He deserves this fate.

    It reminds me of Clinton. He was hated for raising taxes, but had immunity for that giant theft. His pals, the trial lawyers, hounded him on a trivial deposition misleading statement.

    The public always pays. In the case of Clinton, gotcha consumed 100’s of hours of his time for his defense. The result? 9/11.

    One wonders how the public will pay for this small minded lawyer persecution of Spitzer.

    Supremacy Claus on March 10th, 2008
  • 20

    For the last 6 months, out of annoyance and distaste at his antics, I’ve been referring to him as “the one-term Governor of NY”…..but DAMN !!!…he’s not even going to make a full term !

    Goodbye, Eliot. Go bully your dog, or browbeat the gardener. New York won’t miss you.

    Ron Konkamah on March 10th, 2008
  • 21

    Rule #1 in Life:

    Don’t have huge amounts of mysterious cash payments flowing interstate hither and yon from your financial accounts. The Feds pick up on this immediately, and you suddenly have a giant bullseye painted on your back for the FBI and IRS.

    Spitzer is going to be living from this point forwsrd in a World of Pain.

    SmartDoc on March 11th, 2008
  • 22

    America likes to build up its heroes so they can then tear them down. Such a pathetic fall from grace

    Western Justice on March 11th, 2008
  • 23

    You guys have all missed the positive side of this. You should note that Spitzer supported his state by importing a NY girl to Washington rather than using a local girl. Hence, he was able to support the NYS economy while out of state. Now, that certainly is commendable.

    Rick

    Rick Caird on March 11th, 2008
  • 24

    Stephen Colbert notifies the New York Post that he has dibs on “Elliot Mess.”

    Ara on March 11th, 2008
  • 25

    “…but political pundits who took to heart Spitzer’s promise that he’d keep corruption and scandal out of Albany were stunned to learn of the news.”

    Maybe his high priced attorneys can spin this to show how dedicated he was to his duties as governor. He was so dedicated to the cause of removing prostitution from NY that he arranged to have a prostitute leave NY and come to Washington, thereby decreasing the number of prostitutes in NY by one. If only all politicians would show this level of dedication!!

    Jim Thomlonson on March 11th, 2008
  • 26

    Ara,

    Elliot Mess is good.

    The actual New York Post headline is good, too:

    “Ho No”

    Anonymous Attorney on March 11th, 2008