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	Comments on: Chicago firefighters exam	</title>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe that most of us visiting this site are aware that municipalities are in a damned if you do, damned if you don&#039;t situation.  PC foolishness aside, how does one resolve the difficulty of two courts ruling in opposite directions on DIFFERENT cases, resulting in a paucity of valid, legal options?  I believe we need to make a few, possibly minor, possibly major changes to the legal system.  One thought would be a trigger, such as the current case, where rulings on seperate occasions hold an organization to opposing practical sides of an issue while dodging  any requirement for legal review.
Once the trigger fires, the case is automatically sent somewhere for review and clarification, possibly setting aside one verdict or the other, preferably quickly.  This would be for non-constitutional issues...maybe federal circuit? I don&#039;t know, I&#039;m not a lawyer, just interested.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that most of us visiting this site are aware that municipalities are in a damned if you do, damned if you don&#8217;t situation.  PC foolishness aside, how does one resolve the difficulty of two courts ruling in opposite directions on DIFFERENT cases, resulting in a paucity of valid, legal options?  I believe we need to make a few, possibly minor, possibly major changes to the legal system.  One thought would be a trigger, such as the current case, where rulings on seperate occasions hold an organization to opposing practical sides of an issue while dodging  any requirement for legal review.<br />
Once the trigger fires, the case is automatically sent somewhere for review and clarification, possibly setting aside one verdict or the other, preferably quickly.  This would be for non-constitutional issues&#8230;maybe federal circuit? I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;m not a lawyer, just interested.</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keith,

Interestingly, the idea of testing for promotions is a century-old civil service reform meant to take patronage out of the process.  While it certainly has done that, I don&#039;t have any knowledge about how efficacious it has been otherwise.  In this case, the parties certainly disagreed whether the test was a useful means of screening, and whether &quot;89&quot; was a meaningful cut-off compared to some other number.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,</p>
<p>Interestingly, the idea of testing for promotions is a century-old civil service reform meant to take patronage out of the process.  While it certainly has done that, I don&#8217;t have any knowledge about how efficacious it has been otherwise.  In this case, the parties certainly disagreed whether the test was a useful means of screening, and whether &#8220;89&#8221; was a meaningful cut-off compared to some other number.</p>
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		By: Finishing.Law.School		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finishing.Law.School]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does this mean that I have a better chance of becoming a fire fighter rather than passing the bar??
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean that I have a better chance of becoming a fire fighter rather than passing the bar??</p>
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		By: igor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, something has happened - the PC insanity has reached even greater heights among jurists.

This can&#039;t go on.  SOMEthing is going to snap, and my personal opinion is that it&#039;s going to be messy.  IMHO, the backlash is just beginning...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, something has happened &#8211; the PC insanity has reached even greater heights among jurists.</p>
<p>This can&#8217;t go on.  SOMEthing is going to snap, and my personal opinion is that it&#8217;s going to be messy.  IMHO, the backlash is just beginning&#8230;</p>
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		By: Deoxy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The legal system is working exactly as intended.

How is that?  Well, it is (as it currently stands) intended to remove vast amounts of money from anyone with deep pockets.  &quot;Justice&quot; and &quot;predictability&quot; are quite out-dated concepts.

The crime in question that required litigation was the crime of having money while being something other than a lawyer.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The legal system is working exactly as intended.</p>
<p>How is that?  Well, it is (as it currently stands) intended to remove vast amounts of money from anyone with deep pockets.  &#8220;Justice&#8221; and &#8220;predictability&#8221; are quite out-dated concepts.</p>
<p>The crime in question that required litigation was the crime of having money while being something other than a lawyer.</p>
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		By: Keith		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2005/03/chicago-firefighters-exam/comment-page-1/#comment-1182</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is testing the correct way to determine who should be promoted to leadership positions?  This practice is quite rare in the corporate world.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is testing the correct way to determine who should be promoted to leadership positions?  This practice is quite rare in the corporate world.</p>
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