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		By: Fla. lawyer: I&#8217;ve got every right to call judge an &#8220;evil, unfair witch&#8221;		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fla. lawyer: I&#8217;ve got every right to call judge an &#8220;evil, unfair witch&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] judge, as by provoking recusal. For an extreme instance, see the Geoffrey Fieger episode recounted here, here, here, and here. More on what lawyers can say about judges from Bruce Campbell (Campbell [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] judge, as by provoking recusal. For an extreme instance, see the Geoffrey Fieger episode recounted here, here, here, and here. More on what lawyers can say about judges from Bruce Campbell (Campbell [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Rebecca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If he actually used the term &quot;Nazis,&quot; that would not be protected speech, as it is defamatory. You have a right to be a jerk, and to call other people jerks and other rude names, but not to slander. &quot;Nazi&quot; is a very specific allegation, and no different than if he had called the judges &quot;child molesters&quot; or &quot;murderers.&quot;

And even if calling judges &quot;Nazis&quot; was generally protected speech, it certainly wouldn&#039;t be insulated from reprimand. Attorneys are held to a higher standard of decorum than laymen, and if the local Board wants to slap his wrists for being rude to judges, it can certainly do so.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he actually used the term &#8220;Nazis,&#8221; that would not be protected speech, as it is defamatory. You have a right to be a jerk, and to call other people jerks and other rude names, but not to slander. &#8220;Nazi&#8221; is a very specific allegation, and no different than if he had called the judges &#8220;child molesters&#8221; or &#8220;murderers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And even if calling judges &#8220;Nazis&#8221; was generally protected speech, it certainly wouldn&#8217;t be insulated from reprimand. Attorneys are held to a higher standard of decorum than laymen, and if the local Board wants to slap his wrists for being rude to judges, it can certainly do so.</p>
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		By: peter morin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peter morin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find it amusing that Feiger&#039;s lawyer cites the 9th circuit case in defense of his position -- the case involves the upholding of disbarment against a lawyer who repeatedly accused judges of being crooked, etc. The Court made note of the falsity of the factual claims there --  Craig v. Harney would seem to support Feiger&#039;s case as well.

So it appears that Feiger&#039;s comments, while insulting and indecorous, are likely protected nonetheless.

Chalk one up to the esteem of the profession!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it amusing that Feiger&#8217;s lawyer cites the 9th circuit case in defense of his position &#8212; the case involves the upholding of disbarment against a lawyer who repeatedly accused judges of being crooked, etc. The Court made note of the falsity of the factual claims there &#8212;  Craig v. Harney would seem to support Feiger&#8217;s case as well.</p>
<p>So it appears that Feiger&#8217;s comments, while insulting and indecorous, are likely protected nonetheless.</p>
<p>Chalk one up to the esteem of the profession!</p>
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		By: David Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The courts are supposed to balance the First Amendment with the state bar&#039;s right to keep attorneys in line. I&#039;d side with free speech on this one, but attorneys usually exercise extreme caution in talking publicly about judges, if for no other reason than self-interest:  they appear before them.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The courts are supposed to balance the First Amendment with the state bar&#8217;s right to keep attorneys in line. I&#8217;d side with free speech on this one, but attorneys usually exercise extreme caution in talking publicly about judges, if for no other reason than self-interest:  they appear before them.</p>
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		By: Deoxy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deoxy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it&#039;s the State of Michigan reprimanding him, I think that would be an interesting case, and it might well turn out in his favor...

BUT

He&#039;s a lawyer, licensed BY the state to practice, which puts him in interesting territory.

Now, if it&#039;s the BAR association reprimanding him, well, I think he&#039;s currently speaking out the wrong end.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s the State of Michigan reprimanding him, I think that would be an interesting case, and it might well turn out in his favor&#8230;</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a lawyer, licensed BY the state to practice, which puts him in interesting territory.</p>
<p>Now, if it&#8217;s the BAR association reprimanding him, well, I think he&#8217;s currently speaking out the wrong end.</p>
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		By: markm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[markm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course Fieger hired a lawyer to defend him. If he was defending himself, he&#039;d just insult the judge again.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Fieger hired a lawyer to defend him. If he was defending himself, he&#8217;d just insult the judge again.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Fieger&#039;s lawyer, Michael Alan Schwartz...&lt;/i&gt;

I know lawyers hire other lawyers, but to a layman like myself, it still seems funny.

Ah, Jeffrey Fieger: one of the few things I &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; miss about my years living in Michigan...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Fieger&#8217;s lawyer, Michael Alan Schwartz&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I know lawyers hire other lawyers, but to a layman like myself, it still seems funny.</p>
<p>Ah, Jeffrey Fieger: one of the few things I <i>don&#8217;t</i> miss about my years living in Michigan&#8230;</p>
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