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		By: Deoxy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deoxy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;controversial&quot; is not necessarily &quot;defaming&quot;.

Someone claiming that humans were put on this planet by aliens = &quot;controversial&quot; (and stupid)

Someone claiming that I don&#039;t do the service I charge people for = &quot;defamation&quot;

There&#039;s a fairly large difference.  Much as I hate the legal system as it currently exists, not all lawsuits or large verdicts are automatically unjust.

If the union really did put out a mass mailing of any significant size that really did claim that Sutter Health used unclean linens and Sutter Health really doesn&#039;t use unclean linens, then that&#039;s fairly serious defamation.  It would also be libel.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;controversial&#8221; is not necessarily &#8220;defaming&#8221;.</p>
<p>Someone claiming that humans were put on this planet by aliens = &#8220;controversial&#8221; (and stupid)</p>
<p>Someone claiming that I don&#8217;t do the service I charge people for = &#8220;defamation&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a fairly large difference.  Much as I hate the legal system as it currently exists, not all lawsuits or large verdicts are automatically unjust.</p>
<p>If the union really did put out a mass mailing of any significant size that really did claim that Sutter Health used unclean linens and Sutter Health really doesn&#8217;t use unclean linens, then that&#8217;s fairly serious defamation.  It would also be libel.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, as is not uncommon, there&#039;s more than one possible view to be taken of the case. One reader who sent in the story took the view that it&#039;s only fair for a union to face the same kind of tort-liability risk that a business would face under similar circumstances -- such exposure might even broaden the constituency for litigation reform. My main reaction, however, was disquiet that a group&#039;s engagement in controversial speech -- what one of its supporters called &quot;propaganda&quot; -- has just landed it in a potentially ruinous $17 million verdict. The threat of such liability can chill a lot of speech, including speech that is not as rancorous and unfair as the union&#039;s speech appears to have been in this instance.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as is not uncommon, there&#8217;s more than one possible view to be taken of the case. One reader who sent in the story took the view that it&#8217;s only fair for a union to face the same kind of tort-liability risk that a business would face under similar circumstances &#8212; such exposure might even broaden the constituency for litigation reform. My main reaction, however, was disquiet that a group&#8217;s engagement in controversial speech &#8212; what one of its supporters called &#8220;propaganda&#8221; &#8212; has just landed it in a potentially ruinous $17 million verdict. The threat of such liability can chill a lot of speech, including speech that is not as rancorous and unfair as the union&#8217;s speech appears to have been in this instance.</p>
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		By: JKoerner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JKoerner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I applaud Sutter&#039;s litigation, and I hope this verdit is upheld on appeal.  Unions get too much federal protection anyway; civil suits might be a good way to level the playing field.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud Sutter&#8217;s litigation, and I hope this verdit is upheld on appeal.  Unions get too much federal protection anyway; civil suits might be a good way to level the playing field.</p>
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		By: Seth (not a lawyer)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth (not a lawyer)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious:  Is the point of this post that the $17.3 million award was outrageous?  Or that Northern California health care filed a frivolous lawsuit against Unite Here?


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious:  Is the point of this post that the $17.3 million award was outrageous?  Or that Northern California health care filed a frivolous lawsuit against Unite Here?</p>
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