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	Comments on: &#8220;Plaintiff strikes out in lawsuit over Angels bag giveaway&#8221;	</title>
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		By: November 23 roundup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[November 23 roundup]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] In unpublished opinion, California appeals court upholds dismissal of Unruh Act challenge to baseball Angels&#8217; Mothers Day tote giveaway [Lex Icon, earlier] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] In unpublished opinion, California appeals court upholds dismissal of Unruh Act challenge to baseball Angels&#8217; Mothers Day tote giveaway [Lex Icon, earlier] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: amy hayes long		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amy hayes long]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Free gift is redundant.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free gift is redundant.</p>
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		By: David Schwartz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Schwartz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To &quot;target its marketing to that group&quot;?! Targeting your marketing to a group means that you advertise in places that group is likely to see, not that you offer discounts or specials available *only* to members of that group.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;target its marketing to that group&#8221;?! Targeting your marketing to a group means that you advertise in places that group is likely to see, not that you offer discounts or specials available *only* to members of that group.</p>
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		By: David Nieporent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Nieporent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I obviously think the suit was ludicrous, and I approve of the result as a matter of justice, I&#039;m not sure I approve as a matter of policy.  What this does is say that, yes, Unruh is written ridiculously broadly, but rather than fixing it, we&#039;ll leave it up to the discretion of judges to apply it rationally.  I see two problems with that outcome:

1) It means that whether the law is enforced will depend on how popular the defendant is and how sympathetic the plaintiff is, rather than on an objective standard.

2) It means that there will be uncertainty as to whether the law applies in any particular case, which just encourages trial lawyers to play the lottery, hoping to find a gullible judge or jury.

If the court would have ruled for the plaintiff in this case, yes, the plaintiff and his lawyer would have won an illegitimate windfall, but it might have convinced someone to take a look at Unruh&#039;s crazy language.  (Of course, if we cynically assume that the legislature will never fix Unruh because of pressure from left-wing identity politics groups, then this is the second best outcome.)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I obviously think the suit was ludicrous, and I approve of the result as a matter of justice, I&#8217;m not sure I approve as a matter of policy.  What this does is say that, yes, Unruh is written ridiculously broadly, but rather than fixing it, we&#8217;ll leave it up to the discretion of judges to apply it rationally.  I see two problems with that outcome:</p>
<p>1) It means that whether the law is enforced will depend on how popular the defendant is and how sympathetic the plaintiff is, rather than on an objective standard.</p>
<p>2) It means that there will be uncertainty as to whether the law applies in any particular case, which just encourages trial lawyers to play the lottery, hoping to find a gullible judge or jury.</p>
<p>If the court would have ruled for the plaintiff in this case, yes, the plaintiff and his lawyer would have won an illegitimate windfall, but it might have convinced someone to take a look at Unruh&#8217;s crazy language.  (Of course, if we cynically assume that the legislature will never fix Unruh because of pressure from left-wing identity politics groups, then this is the second best outcome.)</p>
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		By: markm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob, this was a Mother&#039;s Day giveaway. If it had been Father&#039;s Day, then they should have been able to run a promotion offering free gifts only to men.

I can see a second argument, although the article doesn&#039;t say the ballpark presented it: If a business recognizes that is&#039;s been selling poorly among one large population segment (women, in the case of sports), it&#039;s quite reasonable for the business to target its marketing to that group.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, this was a Mother&#8217;s Day giveaway. If it had been Father&#8217;s Day, then they should have been able to run a promotion offering free gifts only to men.</p>
<p>I can see a second argument, although the article doesn&#8217;t say the ballpark presented it: If a business recognizes that is&#8217;s been selling poorly among one large population segment (women, in the case of sports), it&#8217;s quite reasonable for the business to target its marketing to that group.</p>
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		By: Bob Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I believe this is the right result, I have little doubt that if the Angels had run a promotion offering free gifts only for *men* age 18 and older this lawsuit would not have been tossed out by the judge.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I believe this is the right result, I have little doubt that if the Angels had run a promotion offering free gifts only for *men* age 18 and older this lawsuit would not have been tossed out by the judge.</p>
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