Comments on: Duke recriminations

By: Todd Rogers

Todd Rogers — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:15:23 +0000

Ditto on the non-sequitur. Ditto on Rishard’s reponse. Guilt is hardly a term that should be applied to any of their behavior.

By: jb

jb — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:09:59 +0000

Platy: None of what you say they are guilty of is a crime.

So your post is a non-sequitur.

By: Richard Nieporent

Richard Nieporent — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:46:06 +0000

but everybody seems to be overlooking that they were guilty of other things; specifically, they were guilty of very poor judgement in contracting with women of questionable integrity to provide sexual entertatinment, they were guilty of squandering an opportunity to receive a prestigious education in favor of spending their time consuming alcohol,

I believe what you are trying to say Platy was that they were guilt of being college boys.

and they were guilty of being children of privilege who it’s pretty hard to have any sympathy for.

Only if you are a left-wing ideologue. The last I looked it was not a crime in this country to be financially successful.

Only an idiot would have believed that the Duke boys were guilty of the crime they were accused of

You mean like Duff Wilson of the New York Times who when given exclusive access to Nifong’s files continued to support Nifong’s persecution of the three Lacrosse players or the infamous Gang of 88 Duke faculty members who have still to this day refused to apologize for their rush to judgment.

By: Platy

Platy — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:30:39 +0000

Only an idiot would have believed that the Duke boys were guilty of the crime they were accused of, but everybody seems to be overlooking that they were guilty of other things; specifically, they were guilty of very poor judgement in contracting with women of questionable integrity to provide sexual entertatinment, they were guilty of squandering an opportunity to receive a prestigious education in favor of spending their time consuming alcohol, and they were guilty of being children of privilege who it’s pretty hard to have any sympathy for. The lessons they are taking away from this experience are worth more than any Ivy League education.

By: Richard Nieporent

Richard Nieporent — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:16:10 +0000

As they say Deoxy, it is the exception that proves the rule! I am with you on this. There are times when lawsuits are appropriate and this is one of them. One can also hope that the state will give him free room and board to make up for his lost pension.

By: Zoe Brain

Zoe Brain — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:31:53 +0000

And in Orange County.... well, read this. Summary : DA knows from photo and witness evidence of the accused's innocence, so uses her step-daughter as a hostage to get the accused to plead guilty. There are very significant other factors involved too. He's gotten away with it.

By: jb

jb — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:27:51 +0000

From the NYT:

“This entire experience has opened my eyes up to a tragic world of injustice I never knew existed,” Mr. Seligmann said. “If police officers and a district attorney can systematically railroad us with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I can’t imagine what they’d do to people who do not have the resources to defend themselves.”

By: Deoxy

Deoxy — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:22:50 +0000

Concerning statements such as that on the View, sadly, I think the only way to stop stuff like that would be to file slander or libel suits against everyone who said such. The evidence of innocence is overwhleming (as this post points out, kudos to Roy Cooper for stating that plainly); claims otherwise at this point (without some extreme new piece of evidence to back it up) should be considered malicious.

Yes, I know… a stauch Overlawyered reader and supporter advocating lots of lawuits… unfortunately, I don’t know of any other way for these guys to act now that would “make things right”.

The odds of this are low, and I mostly appreciate that, but the only other alternative is for the three men in question to simply endure repeated injustice and slander, which is a poor outcome as well.

By: Todd R.

Todd R. — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:53:06 +0000

The juciest bite of this story, I predict, will be found attached to the Duke 88.

By: Ima Fish

Ima Fish — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:11:07 +0000

“of course but it would be wrong to let the press off the hook for its many sins in covering the case”

My wife mentioned that one of the “hosts” of the View was outraged that the charges were dropped and was adamant that the players were guilty.

Fox had a nice overview of the accuser’s life. (I wish I had a link, sorry!) It was interesting that this was the second time she accused men of gang rape only to have the charges drop. And she also accused a man of attempted murder, but that too was dropped.