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		By: markm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It shouldn&#039;t have happened, and that it wasn&#039;t properly prosecuted back then is a stain on this nation&#039;s history, but after 82 years, it&#039;s impossible to hold a fair trial, or to punish the guilty or compensate the majority of the victims.

What evidence would be presented at trial? Nearly all the witnesses are dead, and the survivors were small children. There may be documentary evidence, but (1) most documentary evidence won&#039;t stand on it&#039;s own without witnesses involved in it&#039;s production, and (2) if there was an effective coverup at the time, then there aren&#039;t any contemporaneous documents to prove what the plaintiffs want it to prove.

If you could hold a trial, who pays whom? The people actually responsible are long dead. How can you hold present Tulsa taxpayers responsible for things that happened long before they were born or moved into Tulsa? Likewise, most of the victims are long-dead, and cannot be compensated.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It shouldn&#8217;t have happened, and that it wasn&#8217;t properly prosecuted back then is a stain on this nation&#8217;s history, but after 82 years, it&#8217;s impossible to hold a fair trial, or to punish the guilty or compensate the majority of the victims.</p>
<p>What evidence would be presented at trial? Nearly all the witnesses are dead, and the survivors were small children. There may be documentary evidence, but (1) most documentary evidence won&#8217;t stand on it&#8217;s own without witnesses involved in it&#8217;s production, and (2) if there was an effective coverup at the time, then there aren&#8217;t any contemporaneous documents to prove what the plaintiffs want it to prove.</p>
<p>If you could hold a trial, who pays whom? The people actually responsible are long dead. How can you hold present Tulsa taxpayers responsible for things that happened long before they were born or moved into Tulsa? Likewise, most of the victims are long-dead, and cannot be compensated.</p>
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		By: Michael Simpson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Simpson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 01:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So what&#039;s the problem?  Whose fault is it that it took 80 years to file suit?  The plaintiffs, or the scum who killed or injured their predecessors?

If you don&#039;t like lawsuits brought 80 years after the fact, here&#039;s a solution:  DON&#039;T LIE TO THE PLAINTIFFS FOR 80 YEARS.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s the problem?  Whose fault is it that it took 80 years to file suit?  The plaintiffs, or the scum who killed or injured their predecessors?</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like lawsuits brought 80 years after the fact, here&#8217;s a solution:  DON&#8217;T LIE TO THE PLAINTIFFS FOR 80 YEARS.</p>
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		By: David Nieporent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Nieporent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ray -- no trouble there.  These are the actual people who were injured.

Joh -- the courts have addressed that issue in this case.  Statutes of limitations often &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; toll for coverups -- but they start when the plaintiff was on notice of the injury, not when he had every bit of information about it.  There&#039;s no question here that the survivors knew about the injuries.  (And, indeed, they filed lawsuits about it at the time.)

The courts further addressed the issue of the fact that 1920s Oklahoma was not a hospitable place for blacks to sue over rights violations; the courts were willing to give the plaintiffs more time because of that.  But they ruled that sometime between the 1960s and the present, that changed, and waiting until 2000 was too long.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8212; no trouble there.  These are the actual people who were injured.</p>
<p>Joh &#8212; the courts have addressed that issue in this case.  Statutes of limitations often <i>do</i> toll for coverups &#8212; but they start when the plaintiff was on notice of the injury, not when he had every bit of information about it.  There&#8217;s no question here that the survivors knew about the injuries.  (And, indeed, they filed lawsuits about it at the time.)</p>
<p>The courts further addressed the issue of the fact that 1920s Oklahoma was not a hospitable place for blacks to sue over rights violations; the courts were willing to give the plaintiffs more time because of that.  But they ruled that sometime between the 1960s and the present, that changed, and waiting until 2000 was too long.</p>
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		By: joe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;retroactively extend the statute of limitations&lt;/i&gt;

Aren&#039;t ex post facto laws unconstitutional as per Article 1 sections 9 and 10 of the US Constitution?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>retroactively extend the statute of limitations</i></p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t ex post facto laws unconstitutional as per Article 1 sections 9 and 10 of the US Constitution?</p>
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		By: joh		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/04/never-too-late-for-a-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-14070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While 80 years does seem excesive, the fact that there was a massive cover-up has to be taken into account, I feel.   Maybe the statute of limitations ought to start when the fraud/tort was discovered, not committed.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While 80 years does seem excesive, the fact that there was a massive cover-up has to be taken into account, I feel.   Maybe the statute of limitations ought to start when the fraud/tort was discovered, not committed.</p>
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		By: Ray DiPerna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray DiPerna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about the issue of standing to sue?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the issue of standing to sue?</p>
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