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		By: David Nieporent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Nieporent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe: Reading is fundamental.  From the New York Post article I linked to:

&lt;i&gt;The crux of the lawsuit, however, is Richardson&#039;s allegation that Ettikin was simply seeking revenge on the Patroons following a &lt;b&gt;2005 incident that resulted in the reporter&#039;s car being towed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: Reading is fundamental.  From the New York Post article I linked to:</p>
<p><i>The crux of the lawsuit, however, is Richardson&#8217;s allegation that Ettikin was simply seeking revenge on the Patroons following a <b>2005 incident that resulted in the reporter&#8217;s car being towed</b></i>.</p>
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		By: joe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David, the reporter&#039;s car was towed the same day he interviewed Micheal Ray, not 2 years previous...get your facts straight man!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, the reporter&#8217;s car was towed the same day he interviewed Micheal Ray, not 2 years previous&#8230;get your facts straight man!</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, it may not be actionable defamation, but certainly getting an opportunity to portray  Richardson as badly as possible seemed to be the goal of the reporter.

I note that the reporter introduced his own far more stereotypical racila slur into the conversation, allegedly as an instructive analogy, but he merely published it and said no more.

Richardson is a man trained to be a basketball player.  There tends to be a lack of etiquette training in this field.

Reaching back to an earlier post, it is apparently acceptable to use the term gay as a perjorative that was learned in youth, but faggot is unacceptable because gay doesn&#039;t mean gay while faggot does.

This is a strain, but isn&#039;t the fact that people are are insulted and seemingly outraged when a person of unknown sexuality is called homosexual an indication that they are in fact bigoted against homosexuals themselves?

You stupid piece of crap!  That&#039;s not nice (imputing lack of intelligence and lack of humanity)

You ugly rat!  That&#039;s not nice (imputing lack of physical normalcy and lack of humanity)

You faggot!  That&#039;s not nice (imputing homosexuality - what&#039;s wrong with that?)


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it may not be actionable defamation, but certainly getting an opportunity to portray  Richardson as badly as possible seemed to be the goal of the reporter.</p>
<p>I note that the reporter introduced his own far more stereotypical racila slur into the conversation, allegedly as an instructive analogy, but he merely published it and said no more.</p>
<p>Richardson is a man trained to be a basketball player.  There tends to be a lack of etiquette training in this field.</p>
<p>Reaching back to an earlier post, it is apparently acceptable to use the term gay as a perjorative that was learned in youth, but faggot is unacceptable because gay doesn&#8217;t mean gay while faggot does.</p>
<p>This is a strain, but isn&#8217;t the fact that people are are insulted and seemingly outraged when a person of unknown sexuality is called homosexual an indication that they are in fact bigoted against homosexuals themselves?</p>
<p>You stupid piece of crap!  That&#8217;s not nice (imputing lack of intelligence and lack of humanity)</p>
<p>You ugly rat!  That&#8217;s not nice (imputing lack of physical normalcy and lack of humanity)</p>
<p>You faggot!  That&#8217;s not nice (imputing homosexuality &#8211; what&#8217;s wrong with that?)</p>
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		By: David Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m too alarmed about the now-daily firings, suspensions and smearings of everyone and his brother for making politically incorrect remarks to concentrate on the merits of this case. And this fellow is apparently black! We&#039;ve now entered the age of racial McCarthyism, where the accusation of &quot;bigot&quot; is an indictment, trial and conviction all wrapped up in one.

I understand that an employer is free to can someone for the slightest of reasons, and that if it doesn&#039;t like un-PC remarks, it can fire away. Is it so good that this principle has no limit? What will be the ultimate effect of this? One might say that viewed as a strict matter of freedom of contract, it&#039;s perfectly OK.

The problem is that it&#039;s a dangerously imbalanced &quot;freedom.&quot; There are massive restrictions on what can be done vis a vis hiring and firing in America, and they are heavily loaded in favor of certain groups. If I did not appreciate an employee&#039;s &quot;black power&quot; cubicle decorations, I could not dismiss him over that because the resulting lawsuit would go as we all expect. Imagine a &quot;white power&quot; cubicle decoration, though.

So while freedom of contract is great, I can&#039;t get too excited about it in the present political context.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m too alarmed about the now-daily firings, suspensions and smearings of everyone and his brother for making politically incorrect remarks to concentrate on the merits of this case. And this fellow is apparently black! We&#8217;ve now entered the age of racial McCarthyism, where the accusation of &#8220;bigot&#8221; is an indictment, trial and conviction all wrapped up in one.</p>
<p>I understand that an employer is free to can someone for the slightest of reasons, and that if it doesn&#8217;t like un-PC remarks, it can fire away. Is it so good that this principle has no limit? What will be the ultimate effect of this? One might say that viewed as a strict matter of freedom of contract, it&#8217;s perfectly OK.</p>
<p>The problem is that it&#8217;s a dangerously imbalanced &#8220;freedom.&#8221; There are massive restrictions on what can be done vis a vis hiring and firing in America, and they are heavily loaded in favor of certain groups. If I did not appreciate an employee&#8217;s &#8220;black power&#8221; cubicle decorations, I could not dismiss him over that because the resulting lawsuit would go as we all expect. Imagine a &#8220;white power&#8221; cubicle decoration, though.</p>
<p>So while freedom of contract is great, I can&#8217;t get too excited about it in the present political context.</p>
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		By: Mark Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But truth is a defense to be pleaded and proven by the defendant. Falsity is NOT an element of defamation.  Be that as it may, he&#039;s probably hosed.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But truth is a defense to be pleaded and proven by the defendant. Falsity is NOT an element of defamation.  Be that as it may, he&#8217;s probably hosed.</p>
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