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	Comments on: Furor over Mikal Watts &#8220;judges owe us&#8221; letter	</title>
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		By: monkeyincognito		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brooks, look at our esteemed Texas political class.  They are not Republicans per se, but democrats that changed their party affiliation in order to get elected during the Reagan revolution. Case in point - Rick Perry, Carole Keeton-whatshernametoday, many of our state reps as well.  I&#039;m sure that would extend to judges as well.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooks, look at our esteemed Texas political class.  They are not Republicans per se, but democrats that changed their party affiliation in order to get elected during the Reagan revolution. Case in point &#8211; Rick Perry, Carole Keeton-whatshernametoday, many of our state reps as well.  I&#8217;m sure that would extend to judges as well.</p>
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		By: The Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brooks:&lt;p&gt;Being told that the Supreme Court will reverse a jury verdict/trial court&#039;s judgment is not equivalent to what Watt&#039;s stated in his letter.  Had Watt&#039;s merely noted the orientation of the Corpus Christi Court of Appeals or the results one might expect from that court on appeal, his comments would be unobjectionable.  What makes his comments objectionable is that he implied that the outcome in the appeals court would be swayed by campaign contributions made by his firm.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooks:</p>
<p>Being told that the Supreme Court will reverse a jury verdict/trial court&#8217;s judgment is not equivalent to what Watt&#8217;s stated in his letter.  Had Watt&#8217;s merely noted the orientation of the Corpus Christi Court of Appeals or the results one might expect from that court on appeal, his comments would be unobjectionable.  What makes his comments objectionable is that he implied that the outcome in the appeals court would be swayed by campaign contributions made by his firm.</p>
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		By: Brooks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think you can defend those comments, but unfortunately, it&#039;s something that happens on both sides.  As a plaintiffs&#039; lawyer, I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve been told by defense lawyers and adjusters that even if we receive a good verdict, we all know what&#039;s going to happen at the Supreme Court.

&quot;Given this well-known history, it&#039;s astonishing that so many on the left are complaining that the Texas Supreme Court reverses a majority of cases brought by civil defendant appeals, even to the point of bringing a bogus recusal motion on those grounds.&quot;

I have no idea what Ted means by this statement.  It&#039;s fairly obvious now that most of Texas (and therefore our juries) are Republican (I think that would be a given since we haven&#039;t had a Democrat elected in any statewide election in years).  And, with the exception of Corpus and El Paso, I think the courts of appeals are now Republican dominated.  What is astonishing is that the Supreme Court can rule for Defendants over 80% of the time even after many cases have gone through conservative juries and conservative appellate courts.  (And I think there&#039;s a difference between saying the Supreme Court rules for defendants a &quot;majority of the time,&quot; as Ted says, versus the actual 80% sucess rate).
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you can defend those comments, but unfortunately, it&#8217;s something that happens on both sides.  As a plaintiffs&#8217; lawyer, I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve been told by defense lawyers and adjusters that even if we receive a good verdict, we all know what&#8217;s going to happen at the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>&#8220;Given this well-known history, it&#8217;s astonishing that so many on the left are complaining that the Texas Supreme Court reverses a majority of cases brought by civil defendant appeals, even to the point of bringing a bogus recusal motion on those grounds.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no idea what Ted means by this statement.  It&#8217;s fairly obvious now that most of Texas (and therefore our juries) are Republican (I think that would be a given since we haven&#8217;t had a Democrat elected in any statewide election in years).  And, with the exception of Corpus and El Paso, I think the courts of appeals are now Republican dominated.  What is astonishing is that the Supreme Court can rule for Defendants over 80% of the time even after many cases have gone through conservative juries and conservative appellate courts.  (And I think there&#8217;s a difference between saying the Supreme Court rules for defendants a &#8220;majority of the time,&#8221; as Ted says, versus the actual 80% sucess rate).</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s fascinating how &quot;Justice at Stake&quot; has steadfastly ignored the efforts of trial lawyers to slant the judiciary, but raises the hue and cry from the rooftops when organizations that promote the rule of law ask for balance in judicial elections and selection.  The fact that Justice at Stake, in reviewing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adamsmithfoundation.org/pdf/Missouri_Plan.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this legitimate critique of Missouri&#039;s judicial selection process&lt;/a&gt;, which is controlled by the Missouri Bar, which in turn is controlled by local trial lawyers&#039; groups, thought the outrage was the critique rather than the successful manipulation of the selection process, is telling.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fascinating how &#8220;Justice at Stake&#8221; has steadfastly ignored the efforts of trial lawyers to slant the judiciary, but raises the hue and cry from the rooftops when organizations that promote the rule of law ask for balance in judicial elections and selection.  The fact that Justice at Stake, in reviewing <a href="http://www.adamsmithfoundation.org/pdf/Missouri_Plan.pdf" rel="nofollow"> this legitimate critique of Missouri&#8217;s judicial selection process</a>, which is controlled by the Missouri Bar, which in turn is controlled by local trial lawyers&#8217; groups, thought the outrage was the critique rather than the successful manipulation of the selection process, is telling.</p>
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		By: Bert Brandenburg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bert Brandenburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beyond this case, there has been an enormous uptick in contributions by attorneys and others to judicial candidates around the country.  My organization, Justice at Stake, has published several reports documenting what we call &quot;The New Politics of Judicial Elections.&quot;  (More at www.justiceatstake.org)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond this case, there has been an enormous uptick in contributions by attorneys and others to judicial candidates around the country.  My organization, Justice at Stake, has published several reports documenting what we call &#8220;The New Politics of Judicial Elections.&#8221;  (More at <a href="http://www.justiceatstake.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.justiceatstake.org/</a>)</p>
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		By: The Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This strikes me as a fairly clear violation of the Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct.  See Rule 8.04(a)(5) (prohibiting lawyers from &quot;stat[ing] or imply[ing] an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official&quot;).  Watts&#039;s comments concerning his firm&#039;s contributions to the justices logically could serve no other purpose than to imply improper influence.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This strikes me as a fairly clear violation of the Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct.  See Rule 8.04(a)(5) (prohibiting lawyers from &#8220;stat[ing] or imply[ing] an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official&#8221;).  Watts&#8217;s comments concerning his firm&#8217;s contributions to the justices logically could serve no other purpose than to imply improper influence.</p>
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		By: Griffin3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Griffin3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You would think, even a democrat should be saying &quot;Get this guy away from us!  Use a stick!  Use someone else&#039;s stick!?!&quot;

But with a letter making such threats, to actually leave written eveidence of such things: could you give Mr. Watts a poke from something beyond the (in Texas, completely useless, see previous post) disciplinary comittee?  Is there no &quot;judge tampering&quot; equivalent of the jury tampering charge?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think, even a democrat should be saying &#8220;Get this guy away from us!  Use a stick!  Use someone else&#8217;s stick!?!&#8221;</p>
<p>But with a letter making such threats, to actually leave written eveidence of such things: could you give Mr. Watts a poke from something beyond the (in Texas, completely useless, see previous post) disciplinary comittee?  Is there no &#8220;judge tampering&#8221; equivalent of the jury tampering charge?</p>
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		By: Melvin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget the TV stations!!  (And, of course, Overlawyered!)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the TV stations!!  (And, of course, Overlawyered!)</p>
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		By: John Burgess		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Burgess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My first stop would be every newspaper office I could think of. &lt;i&gt;Then&lt;/i&gt; the disciplinary committee.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first stop would be every newspaper office I could think of. <i>Then</i> the disciplinary committee.</p>
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		By: Eric @ New York Personal Injury Law Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric @ New York Personal Injury Law Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I ever received a letter like that, invoking either friendship or donations, it would go straight to the disciplinary committee.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever received a letter like that, invoking either friendship or donations, it would go straight to the disciplinary committee.</p>
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