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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The suit has been dropped by the officer and she has been suspended by the Casselberry police department.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.local6.com/news/14319101/detail.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Officer Drops Suit, Placed On Leave&lt;/a&gt;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The suit has been dropped by the officer and she has been suspended by the Casselberry police department.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.local6.com/news/14319101/detail.html" rel="nofollow">Officer Drops Suit, Placed On Leave</a></p>
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		By: Supremacy Claus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Supremacy Claus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Torts deter. As a matter of policy, do we want to deter future 911 calls by anyone with private insurance or assets? Does allowing torts promote the governmental function of protecting the public? The suit should not survive first pleadings, as a matter of public policy, to avoid deterring the public from calling for help, and to avoid the unjust enrichment of emergency personnel using their jobs to generate massive numbers of lawsuits, and making $bils off their civil service jobs.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torts deter. As a matter of policy, do we want to deter future 911 calls by anyone with private insurance or assets? Does allowing torts promote the governmental function of protecting the public? The suit should not survive first pleadings, as a matter of public policy, to avoid deterring the public from calling for help, and to avoid the unjust enrichment of emergency personnel using their jobs to generate massive numbers of lawsuits, and making $bils off their civil service jobs.</p>
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		By: E-Bell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E-Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NE2d,

There is seldom any dispute between insurers in personal injury cases.

What you describe is common, however, for auto property damage claims.  Property damage insurers often have a right of subrogation against the tortfeasor (who theoretically has his own insurance). In some states, auto insurers are required to send all their disputed property damage claims to arbitration, thus easing the burden on the courts (and insureds).

As for your other point, I wouldn&#039;t buy an insurance policy that excluded the tortious conduct of others.  Regardless, I would expect that most courts would find such a provision to be against public policy.  I mean, the tortious conduct of others is one of the chief reasons why you purchase insurance (particularly auto insurance)!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NE2d,</p>
<p>There is seldom any dispute between insurers in personal injury cases.</p>
<p>What you describe is common, however, for auto property damage claims.  Property damage insurers often have a right of subrogation against the tortfeasor (who theoretically has his own insurance). In some states, auto insurers are required to send all their disputed property damage claims to arbitration, thus easing the burden on the courts (and insureds).</p>
<p>As for your other point, I wouldn&#8217;t buy an insurance policy that excluded the tortious conduct of others.  Regardless, I would expect that most courts would find such a provision to be against public policy.  I mean, the tortious conduct of others is one of the chief reasons why you purchase insurance (particularly auto insurance)!</p>
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		By: nevins		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/10/by-reader-acclaim-cop-sues-family-after-saving-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-9217</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did the cop have the consent of those in the home, or did she presume it and push her way in without first determining specifically what were the terms under which she could enter the private residence?  I doubt if a call to a dispatcher automatically creates a consent for the dispatched to enter private property.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the cop have the consent of those in the home, or did she presume it and push her way in without first determining specifically what were the terms under which she could enter the private residence?  I doubt if a call to a dispatcher automatically creates a consent for the dispatched to enter private property.</p>
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		By: NE2d		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NE2d]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[E-Bell,

Thank you for the clarification.  But is it not true that lawsuits that seem to be disputes the named parties are actually disputes between their respective insurance companies?  We all know that insurance companies are loathe to pay out claims, so it&#039;s a matter of: &quot;Your insurance company should pay,&quot; &quot;No, &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; insurance company should pay.&quot;

markm,

This is just idle speculation (which, after all, is what the internet is all about), but is it not possible that the policy could simply state, &quot;This policy does not cover injuries that are the result of another&#039;s tortous (sp?) conduct&quot;?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E-Bell,</p>
<p>Thank you for the clarification.  But is it not true that lawsuits that seem to be disputes the named parties are actually disputes between their respective insurance companies?  We all know that insurance companies are loathe to pay out claims, so it&#8217;s a matter of: &#8220;Your insurance company should pay,&#8221; &#8220;No, <i>your</i> insurance company should pay.&#8221;</p>
<p>markm,</p>
<p>This is just idle speculation (which, after all, is what the internet is all about), but is it not possible that the policy could simply state, &#8220;This policy does not cover injuries that are the result of another&#8217;s tortous (sp?) conduct&#8221;?</p>
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		By: markm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[markm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NE2D: What possible grounds could the fireman&#039;s (or more likely the department&#039;s) insurance company have for refusing to pay?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NE2D: What possible grounds could the fireman&#8217;s (or more likely the department&#8217;s) insurance company have for refusing to pay?</p>
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		By: E-Bell		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/10/by-reader-acclaim-cop-sues-family-after-saving-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-9214</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E-Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NE2d,

I don&#039;t think so.

What usually happens when the injured party has health insurance is that the health insurer pays the majority of his medical bills.

When the injured party sues, the health insurer then has a right to file a lien against any proceeds the injured party gets out of a settlement or verdict.

Usually, the injured party&#039;s insurer can negotiate with the health insurer to reduce the amount of the lien (in my experience, it ends up being about 2/3 of the original bill).

If my health insurance refused to pay a covered medical expense, the first entity I&#039;d sue would be the health insurance company - not the alleged tortfeasor.

But that only gets you money to cover your bills - where&#039;s the lottery jackpot?

The answer, my friend, is in the &quot;noneconomic damages,&quot; which are sometimes outlandishly huge and the main purpose of which (though you&#039;ll never hear a PI attorney admit it) is to ensure that the attorney gets paid.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NE2d,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>What usually happens when the injured party has health insurance is that the health insurer pays the majority of his medical bills.</p>
<p>When the injured party sues, the health insurer then has a right to file a lien against any proceeds the injured party gets out of a settlement or verdict.</p>
<p>Usually, the injured party&#8217;s insurer can negotiate with the health insurer to reduce the amount of the lien (in my experience, it ends up being about 2/3 of the original bill).</p>
<p>If my health insurance refused to pay a covered medical expense, the first entity I&#8217;d sue would be the health insurance company &#8211; not the alleged tortfeasor.</p>
<p>But that only gets you money to cover your bills &#8211; where&#8217;s the lottery jackpot?</p>
<p>The answer, my friend, is in the &#8220;noneconomic damages,&#8221; which are sometimes outlandishly huge and the main purpose of which (though you&#8217;ll never hear a PI attorney admit it) is to ensure that the attorney gets paid.</p>
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		By: doclaw		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the most unbelievable point of this story: the boy&#039;s grandfather, who lived in the home, stated &quot;Of course there&#039;s going to be water in the house. He was sopping wet when we brought him in.&quot;

The puddle of water, supposedly left negligently on the floor, was the result of bringing the wet near-drowning victim into the house. To hear the plaintiffs lawyer castigating the family in print for &quot;bringing this on themselves&quot; is a new low.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most unbelievable point of this story: the boy&#8217;s grandfather, who lived in the home, stated &#8220;Of course there&#8217;s going to be water in the house. He was sopping wet when we brought him in.&#8221;</p>
<p>The puddle of water, supposedly left negligently on the floor, was the result of bringing the wet near-drowning victim into the house. To hear the plaintiffs lawyer castigating the family in print for &#8220;bringing this on themselves&#8221; is a new low.</p>
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		By: E-Bell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E-Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tell that to the Florida legislature, Supremacy Claus.  They passed a law eliminating the fireman&#039;s rule in the early &#039;90s.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell that to the Florida legislature, Supremacy Claus.  They passed a law eliminating the fireman&#8217;s rule in the early &#8217;90s.</p>
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		By: NE2d		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NE2d]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Without knowing any details, I suspect that it&#039;s possible that this is not as it seems.  I am under the impression that in many cases like this, the plaintiff&#039;s insurance company refuses to pay, insisting that the injured person go after someone else.  The injured person, who may be facing massive medical bills, is left with the awful choice of bankruptcy or crippling debt on the one hand, and looking like an asshole on the other.  Again, I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s the case here, but I do know that that&#039;s where people sometimes find themselves after an accident like this.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without knowing any details, I suspect that it&#8217;s possible that this is not as it seems.  I am under the impression that in many cases like this, the plaintiff&#8217;s insurance company refuses to pay, insisting that the injured person go after someone else.  The injured person, who may be facing massive medical bills, is left with the awful choice of bankruptcy or crippling debt on the one hand, and looking like an asshole on the other.  Again, I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s the case here, but I do know that that&#8217;s where people sometimes find themselves after an accident like this.</p>
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