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		By: September 11 roundup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[September 11 roundup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Massachusetts high court ruling that docs can be sued over their patients&#8217; medication-impaired behavior is predictably leading to new suits [Globe, Brockton hospital crash; earlier] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Massachusetts high court ruling that docs can be sued over their patients&#8217; medication-impaired behavior is predictably leading to new suits [Globe, Brockton hospital crash; earlier] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Tom T.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ted, I&#039;m not sure why you think this decision will change a doctor&#039;s conduct.  According to the court, the doctor already owes a duty to his own patient under state law to disclose the risks that a prescribed medication might pose for driving.  The incentive you cite is already there, and is either happening or is not.  This decision shouldn&#039;t change that.

Think of it this way:  Is it reasonable to believe that when Dr. Florio told his patient that he was now OK to drive, the doctor thought to himself, &quot;well, if I&#039;m wrong, I might be liable for my patient&#039;s injuries to himself, but at least I won&#039;t get tagged if he runs into somebody else&quot;?  I find that unlikely.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, I&#8217;m not sure why you think this decision will change a doctor&#8217;s conduct.  According to the court, the doctor already owes a duty to his own patient under state law to disclose the risks that a prescribed medication might pose for driving.  The incentive you cite is already there, and is either happening or is not.  This decision shouldn&#8217;t change that.</p>
<p>Think of it this way:  Is it reasonable to believe that when Dr. Florio told his patient that he was now OK to drive, the doctor thought to himself, &#8220;well, if I&#8217;m wrong, I might be liable for my patient&#8217;s injuries to himself, but at least I won&#8217;t get tagged if he runs into somebody else&#8221;?  I find that unlikely.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Attorney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Attorney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark:

The answer to your question about medical transport is &quot;yes,&quot; as I see it on the ground. These services are astronomically expensive, with per-mile charges that make me wonder if the vehicle is equipped with a wet bar. As I imagine it, these services probably must carry very pricey insurance themselves, and are probably targets of frequent litigation because of the touchy nature of their passengers.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark:</p>
<p>The answer to your question about medical transport is &#8220;yes,&#8221; as I see it on the ground. These services are astronomically expensive, with per-mile charges that make me wonder if the vehicle is equipped with a wet bar. As I imagine it, these services probably must carry very pricey insurance themselves, and are probably targets of frequent litigation because of the touchy nature of their passengers.</p>
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		By: Mark Schomers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Schomers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am trying to imagine how costly my workmans comp insurance is going to be with all the additional time employees will feel the need to remain away from work. Will the insurance companies be obligated to pay for &quot;medical transport ambulances&quot; to ferry the injured party back and forth to follow-up office visits with the doctors? The cost of such foolishness must simply escape these &quot;learned&quot; lawmakers.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to imagine how costly my workmans comp insurance is going to be with all the additional time employees will feel the need to remain away from work. Will the insurance companies be obligated to pay for &#8220;medical transport ambulances&#8221; to ferry the injured party back and forth to follow-up office visits with the doctors? The cost of such foolishness must simply escape these &#8220;learned&#8221; lawmakers.</p>
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		By: throckmorton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[throckmorton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like many legal arguments, the question is not what caused the accident but who to blame in order to get money.  The medical response will defensive but not in the paperwork way.  Instead, it will be to avoid to medicate.  You wont get sued for a car accident because of a medication if you don&#039;t prescribe it.  We have seen that warnings and well documented counselling sessions with patients do not hold up to aggressive attorneys in search of deep pockets.  To prevent being hit with &quot;joint by severable&quot; cases physicians will choose not to medicate and report everyone to the DMV.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many legal arguments, the question is not what caused the accident but who to blame in order to get money.  The medical response will defensive but not in the paperwork way.  Instead, it will be to avoid to medicate.  You wont get sued for a car accident because of a medication if you don&#8217;t prescribe it.  We have seen that warnings and well documented counselling sessions with patients do not hold up to aggressive attorneys in search of deep pockets.  To prevent being hit with &#8220;joint by severable&#8221; cases physicians will choose not to medicate and report everyone to the DMV.</p>
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		By: Todd Rogers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Rogers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, what this will do is require one more form to fill out while waiting to see the doc.
&quot;The undersigned agrees/is aware that the doctor may prescribe medications which may alter the patient&#039;s ability to operate dangerous machinery to include, but not be limited to...cars, trucks, combines, tractors, big-wheels, tricycles, bicycles, shoes, sandals, pens, pencils, firearms, cutlery, climb fences, climb radio towers, climb cell towers, urinate on electrical fences or power sources for electrically-powered transit trains, buses, large freight trains, oil-transporting ocean vessels, freight ships, cargo ships, aircraft (including non-powered gliders), play professional sports, non-professional sports, engage in sexual activity (either hetero, homo, or &quot;other&quot;), and otherwise function as a carbon-based life form.  Be advised and notify the doctor of any other medications you may be taking or anticipate to take at some point in the future.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, what this will do is require one more form to fill out while waiting to see the doc.<br />
&#8220;The undersigned agrees/is aware that the doctor may prescribe medications which may alter the patient&#8217;s ability to operate dangerous machinery to include, but not be limited to&#8230;cars, trucks, combines, tractors, big-wheels, tricycles, bicycles, shoes, sandals, pens, pencils, firearms, cutlery, climb fences, climb radio towers, climb cell towers, urinate on electrical fences or power sources for electrically-powered transit trains, buses, large freight trains, oil-transporting ocean vessels, freight ships, cargo ships, aircraft (including non-powered gliders), play professional sports, non-professional sports, engage in sexual activity (either hetero, homo, or &#8220;other&#8221;), and otherwise function as a carbon-based life form.  Be advised and notify the doctor of any other medications you may be taking or anticipate to take at some point in the future.</p>
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		By: Jason Wong		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/12/the-next-wave-of-defensive-medicine/comment-page-1/#comment-9801</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Wong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;After all, patients can&#039;t sue their doctors for the damages caused by their being unable to drive.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not so sure. Some medical conditions require a doctor to notify the DMV which will then suspend the driver&#039;s license.

In many parts of the country, being without an automobile is a significant hindrance.

If an MD&#039;s actions (without valid medical justification) result in losing your license, there might be some liability.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>After all, patients can&#8217;t sue their doctors for the damages caused by their being unable to drive.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure. Some medical conditions require a doctor to notify the DMV which will then suspend the driver&#8217;s license.</p>
<p>In many parts of the country, being without an automobile is a significant hindrance.</p>
<p>If an MD&#8217;s actions (without valid medical justification) result in losing your license, there might be some liability.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Attorney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Attorney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if this accounts for the glut of doctor notes I&#039;ve gotten recently declaring that a plaintiff or a worker&#039;s compensation recipient is &quot;unable to drive.&quot; With this information, for instance, a very mildly injured worker&#039;s compensation recipient can cruise for years on a home vacation because they are &quot;unable to drive&quot; to training or alternate work. Or a plaintiff in a mild personal injury case can all of a sudden claim a lifetime&#039;s worth of lost wages because -- you guessed it -- they can &quot;no longer drive.&quot;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this accounts for the glut of doctor notes I&#8217;ve gotten recently declaring that a plaintiff or a worker&#8217;s compensation recipient is &#8220;unable to drive.&#8221; With this information, for instance, a very mildly injured worker&#8217;s compensation recipient can cruise for years on a home vacation because they are &#8220;unable to drive&#8221; to training or alternate work. Or a plaintiff in a mild personal injury case can all of a sudden claim a lifetime&#8217;s worth of lost wages because &#8212; you guessed it &#8212; they can &#8220;no longer drive.&#8221;</p>
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