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		By: San Francisco zoo tiger mauling victims sue		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Watch out getting into a fight with a crisis management specialist, they have sharp tongues. (John Coté, &#8220;Tiger attack victims file suit in federal court&#8221;, San Francisco Chronicle, Nov. 13; more Chronicle coverage; earlier). [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Watch out getting into a fight with a crisis management specialist, they have sharp tongues. (John Coté, &#8220;Tiger attack victims file suit in federal court&#8221;, San Francisco Chronicle, Nov. 13; more Chronicle coverage; earlier). [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: didn't anyone here go to law school		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[didn't anyone here go to law school]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t keeping wild animals, especially tigers, the classic example used to describe strict liability? The zoo keeps wild animals, the animals get loose, cause an injury, then the zoo is liable no matter how much care was taken to confine the animals. It does not matter what they did to provoke the tiger, the zoo will be liable. I can&#039;t believe i just wasted   two minutes of reading time explaining this, time to get back to torts . . . .
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t keeping wild animals, especially tigers, the classic example used to describe strict liability? The zoo keeps wild animals, the animals get loose, cause an injury, then the zoo is liable no matter how much care was taken to confine the animals. It does not matter what they did to provoke the tiger, the zoo will be liable. I can&#8217;t believe i just wasted   two minutes of reading time explaining this, time to get back to torts . . . .</p>
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		By: John N.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John N.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems like this would be  perfect opportunity for the civil version of nullification.  I, for one, would have the attitude of &quot;you teased a tiger and you got mauled...Jungle Justice was served.  Go home now.&quot;   Although this might be more likely in a situation involving animals, it would still mean a jury striking a blow for personal responsibility...Oh well, a man can dream.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like this would be  perfect opportunity for the civil version of nullification.  I, for one, would have the attitude of &#8220;you teased a tiger and you got mauled&#8230;Jungle Justice was served.  Go home now.&#8221;   Although this might be more likely in a situation involving animals, it would still mean a jury striking a blow for personal responsibility&#8230;Oh well, a man can dream.</p>
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		By: ben tillman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ben tillman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think we got your point, but we may have disagreed with your equation of tempting with taunting.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we got your point, but we may have disagreed with your equation of tempting with taunting.</p>
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		By: yojoe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yojoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The comments about the wall seem to miss the point I was trying to make, to wit: every person in the zoo was taunting the tiger.  The zoo knows that tigers would like to eat humans.  Thus, the zoo must build an enclosure to keep the tiger from eating the humans.

These comments are inapposite if the men did something to aid the tiger in its escape.  But taunting is not enough.  I ate toast today.  I did not choose the piece of bread because it taunted me; I chose it because it is a food source.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments about the wall seem to miss the point I was trying to make, to wit: every person in the zoo was taunting the tiger.  The zoo knows that tigers would like to eat humans.  Thus, the zoo must build an enclosure to keep the tiger from eating the humans.</p>
<p>These comments are inapposite if the men did something to aid the tiger in its escape.  But taunting is not enough.  I ate toast today.  I did not choose the piece of bread because it taunted me; I chose it because it is a food source.</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;breaches of confidentiality&quot;

There is no duty to keep confidential something overheard.  The speaker did not give that information to a medical professional (or para).  He made statements in the presense of a third party - no way to keep something confidential.

&quot;that no other tiger escaped until this ... devalues ... &quot;wall is not tall enough&quot; braying&quot;

How so?  If my son doesn&#039;t open the undersink cabinet and drink bleach until he is four years old, does that somehow mean the bleach in the unlocked cabinet has always been adequately secured?

Where all circumstances are unchanged &quot;It never happened before&quot; means exactly the same as &quot;It could have happened any time.&quot;

As we all know, it does not matter if the zoo had met or even exceeded all safety standards.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;breaches of confidentiality&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no duty to keep confidential something overheard.  The speaker did not give that information to a medical professional (or para).  He made statements in the presense of a third party &#8211; no way to keep something confidential.</p>
<p>&#8220;that no other tiger escaped until this &#8230; devalues &#8230; &#8220;wall is not tall enough&#8221; braying&#8221;</p>
<p>How so?  If my son doesn&#8217;t open the undersink cabinet and drink bleach until he is four years old, does that somehow mean the bleach in the unlocked cabinet has always been adequately secured?</p>
<p>Where all circumstances are unchanged &#8220;It never happened before&#8221; means exactly the same as &#8220;It could have happened any time.&#8221;</p>
<p>As we all know, it does not matter if the zoo had met or even exceeded all safety standards.</p>
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		By: Clueby4		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clueby4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, if the tiger got out by climbing up the dangling leg that was allegedly in the cage then the height of the wall is  moot.

Also, the fact that no other tiger escaped until this incident pretty much devalues the whole crybaby &quot;wall is not tall enough&quot; braying
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if the tiger got out by climbing up the dangling leg that was allegedly in the cage then the height of the wall is  moot.</p>
<p>Also, the fact that no other tiger escaped until this incident pretty much devalues the whole crybaby &#8220;wall is not tall enough&#8221; braying</p>
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		By: Jim Collins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Everything I&#039;ve heard or read says that the zoo&#039;s wall didn&#039;t meet the RECOMMENDED standards.  I haven&#039;t heard anything about a law being broken.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything I&#8217;ve heard or read says that the zoo&#8217;s wall didn&#8217;t meet the RECOMMENDED standards.  I haven&#8217;t heard anything about a law being broken.</p>
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		By: Mike Perry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Perry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too many posters seem intent on excusing these drunken, uncooperative jerks. They&#039;re thinking like little children, meaning that if they do something wrong, there should be an &quot;adult&quot; around who gets the blame and pays. I didn&#039;t get fat because I pig out at MacDonalds. They made me eat their food. I didn&#039;t get drunk and wreck my car. That bartender made me drink too much. Yeah, I taunted that tiger, but the fence should have been higher. And so on.

They shouldn&#039;t bother. These two drunks&#039; behavior not only means they&#039;re at least as much at fault for this as the zoo, they weren&#039;t hurt any more than they&#039;d have been in a moderately bad car accident. If they get the zoo to cover their medical expenses, they should consider themselves fortunate.

The dead guy is a different matter. According to the witness who is talking, he wasn&#039;t taunting the tiger. His only failing was having such stupid friends. He is dead because the zoo had a wall that was several feet below safety standards and because those friends were idiots. His family has grounds to sue both the zoo and these two jerks.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many posters seem intent on excusing these drunken, uncooperative jerks. They&#8217;re thinking like little children, meaning that if they do something wrong, there should be an &#8220;adult&#8221; around who gets the blame and pays. I didn&#8217;t get fat because I pig out at MacDonalds. They made me eat their food. I didn&#8217;t get drunk and wreck my car. That bartender made me drink too much. Yeah, I taunted that tiger, but the fence should have been higher. And so on.</p>
<p>They shouldn&#8217;t bother. These two drunks&#8217; behavior not only means they&#8217;re at least as much at fault for this as the zoo, they weren&#8217;t hurt any more than they&#8217;d have been in a moderately bad car accident. If they get the zoo to cover their medical expenses, they should consider themselves fortunate.</p>
<p>The dead guy is a different matter. According to the witness who is talking, he wasn&#8217;t taunting the tiger. His only failing was having such stupid friends. He is dead because the zoo had a wall that was several feet below safety standards and because those friends were idiots. His family has grounds to sue both the zoo and these two jerks.</p>
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		By: OBQuiet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBQuiet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[nevins,

While I think that the youth have a right to their medical records being kept confidential, why should this extend to non-medical info? If I am being treated fo a knife wounds and comment,&quot;at least the XXXX won&#039;t be messing with my wife anymore!&quot; is that also  to be kept private?

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nevins,</p>
<p>While I think that the youth have a right to their medical records being kept confidential, why should this extend to non-medical info? If I am being treated fo a knife wounds and comment,&#8221;at least the XXXX won&#8217;t be messing with my wife anymore!&#8221; is that also  to be kept private?</p>
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