Comments on: March 4 roundup

By: Deoxy

Deoxy — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:10:51 +0000

“presumed guilty of child abuse”

This is the result when ANY government entity is given (essentially) unlimited power, as we hav our Child Protection [sic] Services.

And that stuff on Britain is just plain scary.

By: OBQuiet

OBQuiet — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:55:46 +0000

That Gas lawsuit is simply absurd. Is anyone questioning that less than a gallon was delivered when you pay for a gallon. The thermal expansion and contraction are simply a part of nature. You were promised a gallon and you got a gallon. Unless the oil company installed a heater just to ‘pump up the volume’ what’s the issue?

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:48:56 +0000

If the oil companies lose this case, will they be allowed to sue the state and federal government for not adjusting the taxes per gallon based on temperature?

By: anon

anon — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:37:42 +0000

By classic physics, the definition of a liter is 1 kilogram of water’s volume at room temperature, which is 25 Celsius. So the gasoline actually shrinks in the winter and there is more in a gallon in most of the year and less in a gallon in summer. I wonder if oil companies can countersue for money because they sell oil for less money in most of the year. Again, attorneys get big money and oil companies will transfer that load to us, the everyday consumers.

By: Jim Collins

Jim Collins — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:20:52 +0000

This looks like the oil companies want to have their cake and eat it too. From what I read here it sounds like thermal expansion is enough of an issue in Canada, where it would be to the consumer’s advantage, to have this equipment installed. Why is thermal expansion not an issue when it is to the oil companies advantage?

While I believe that the media’s over stating the “price gouging” issue, I still have a problem with the explaination on how gasoline prices are determined. All I see in the media is how gasoline isn’t a big money maker for retailers, that it is a draw to get people into the stores, where the real profit is made. I have one question then. If they don’t make that much money off of gasoline, then why have the pay at the pump system? The credit card companies charge a percentage for their use and the people paying at the pump don’t even enter the store.

By: jkoerner

jkoerner — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:47:01 +0000

It seems to me that Bush should just tell the Navy to go ahead with the sonar exercises regardless of what the courts say. Afterwards he could pardon anyone involved and it would be a moot point. It is not popular, but there is precendent for the President to ignore the courts on issues such as this; I think Jackson ignored the Supreme Court as did Lincoln on habeus corpus.

I realize that some may say this would break our checks and balances system, but I think it is a valid check on activist courts to know their ruling may just be ignored with no recourse. They may be more cautious as in Marbury v. Madison.

By: Todd Rogers

Todd Rogers — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:46:57 +0000

Nice analysis, VMS.

Headlines beget “outrage” beget victims beget lawsuits beget settlement. Do you think this “Big Oil Profits Outrage Syndrome” is really just a quasi-ponzi scheme cooked up between MSM and Big-Law?

By: Anonymous Attorney

Anonymous Attorney — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:02:24 +0000

Dan Gardner makes fine points about “hate speech” in Canada/Kansas. Although I wish to note that Canada has been doing this for quite some time, and the biggest targets have been white advocates like Paul Fromm. Only now that neoconnish-types like Mark Steyn are getting a drubbing does this gain traction in the respectable American media. Hmmm.

By: VMS

VMS — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:13:24 +0000

The coefficient of thermal expansion of “gasoline” is anywhere from .00053 to .0006 per degree F. 60 degrees F. is the “standard” delivery temperature for the gasoline. Although a 20 degree F increase will result in about a 1% overcharge, such is rarely the case with underground tanks which tend to keep the gasoline from temperature extremes. This should not enough to cause consumer concern and a class action lawsuit, unless it can be shown that the oil companies and gas stations involved are purposely warming their gas before delivery to the consumer. Unlike the good practice of adjusting the price of natural gas centrally to correct for variations in heat content, the retrofit costs to each gasoline pump will swamp any savings (or price increases) to the consumer to adjust for volume variations as a funtion of temperature.

There is a natural variation of the energy content of “gasoline” from about 18,500 BTU per pound to about 20,500 BTU per pound. Ethanol has about 2/3 the heat content of gasoline, and methanol has about half. So if you buy gasoline that has either of these alcohols added, you are really getting ripped off with respect to purchasing heat content.