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		By: Nikki Pratt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nikki Pratt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 04:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having flown non-rev as a kid, I can tell you that if that door is open, and seats are available, they&#039;ll put somebody in it.  I&#039;ve seen non-revs kicked off of the plane when the original ticket person showed up.  What they did to that man and his family was horrible.  

Having just flown out the whole family out for a funeral with paid tickets, we all agreed that Continental had the best service.  Northwest was okay but having to buy your food on a 12 hr flight was just tacky.  And Delta was HORRIBLE.  My mom spent hours on the phone and then three hours at the airport in person to get just one ticket fixed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having flown non-rev as a kid, I can tell you that if that door is open, and seats are available, they&#8217;ll put somebody in it.  I&#8217;ve seen non-revs kicked off of the plane when the original ticket person showed up.  What they did to that man and his family was horrible.  </p>
<p>Having just flown out the whole family out for a funeral with paid tickets, we all agreed that Continental had the best service.  Northwest was okay but having to buy your food on a 12 hr flight was just tacky.  And Delta was HORRIBLE.  My mom spent hours on the phone and then three hours at the airport in person to get just one ticket fixed.</p>
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		By: Joe Bingham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Bingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;These days if Southwest doesn’t fly there neither do I. I know exactly what level of service I am paying for, they almost always exceed it AND they get me there in one piece and on time. Plus they fight B$ lawsuits to the death and usually win.&lt;/i&gt;

Words to live by. I don&#039;t know why people fly with other airlines and then complain about customer service. There&#039;s a reason SW&#039;s reputation is great and other airlines&#039; are crappy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>These days if Southwest doesn’t fly there neither do I. I know exactly what level of service I am paying for, they almost always exceed it AND they get me there in one piece and on time. Plus they fight B$ lawsuits to the death and usually win.</i></p>
<p>Words to live by. I don&#8217;t know why people fly with other airlines and then complain about customer service. There&#8217;s a reason SW&#8217;s reputation is great and other airlines&#8217; are crappy.</p>
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		By: Bill Poser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Poser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brad,

The article says that their flight from New York to Atlanta was two hours late, so it wasn&#039;t their fault that they were late.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>The article says that their flight from New York to Atlanta was two hours late, so it wasn&#8217;t their fault that they were late.</p>
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		By: Brad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing that seems to not be mentioned anywhere: why were they denied boarding in the first place?  As a &quot;certified road-warrior&quot; (~100,000 miles/year) I have seen enough cases of people non-chalantly walking up to international flights 10 minutes before departure time and being surprised that they aren&#039;t boarded.  Some then act irrationally as if the rest of the world should be expected to tolerate their incapability to read a clock. The gate agents&#039; responses to such behavior is generally consistent with what this lawyer is suing over.  My suspicion (purely a guess) is that Mr. Roth&#039;s arrival was indeed after the &quot;cut-off&quot; deadline.  He had the misfortune of travelling at the beginning of what is the busiest travel season of the year--of course they can&#039;t board him for several days--everybody else is also taking flights for Xmas...

If my suspicion is right, I&#039;d love to see Delta countersue.  Can corporations sue for slander?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that seems to not be mentioned anywhere: why were they denied boarding in the first place?  As a &#8220;certified road-warrior&#8221; (~100,000 miles/year) I have seen enough cases of people non-chalantly walking up to international flights 10 minutes before departure time and being surprised that they aren&#8217;t boarded.  Some then act irrationally as if the rest of the world should be expected to tolerate their incapability to read a clock. The gate agents&#8217; responses to such behavior is generally consistent with what this lawyer is suing over.  My suspicion (purely a guess) is that Mr. Roth&#8217;s arrival was indeed after the &#8220;cut-off&#8221; deadline.  He had the misfortune of travelling at the beginning of what is the busiest travel season of the year&#8211;of course they can&#8217;t board him for several days&#8211;everybody else is also taking flights for Xmas&#8230;</p>
<p>If my suspicion is right, I&#8217;d love to see Delta countersue.  Can corporations sue for slander?</p>
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		By: Bumper		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/05/doesnt-even-leave-the-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-18106</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bumper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yikes, I read the story and felt Delta was getting off easy. I guess I&#039;ll check myself in for some de-sensitivity training over the weekend. 

My take was the cause of this was a tool of an employee at the gate. Ten to one the reason they didn&#039;t open the door and board them was either a Power Trip by said gate attendant or Delta had already sold their seats for a higher price, which given his tickets were purchased with frequent flyer miles means anyone with a credit card.

But I agree with the others, vote with your billfold. I grew up flying Delta and the last time I flew Delta was when the American flight we were on had problems and AA put us on a Delta flight. That was over twenty years ago. These days if Southwest doesn&#039;t fly there neither do I. I know exactly what level of service I am paying for, they almost always exceed it AND they get me there in one piece and on time. Plus they fight B$ lawsuits to the death and usually win.

But it does sound like our friend, Mr. Roth had already made a similar decision in flavor of Delta, hence all those frequent flyer miles to spend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes, I read the story and felt Delta was getting off easy. I guess I&#8217;ll check myself in for some de-sensitivity training over the weekend. </p>
<p>My take was the cause of this was a tool of an employee at the gate. Ten to one the reason they didn&#8217;t open the door and board them was either a Power Trip by said gate attendant or Delta had already sold their seats for a higher price, which given his tickets were purchased with frequent flyer miles means anyone with a credit card.</p>
<p>But I agree with the others, vote with your billfold. I grew up flying Delta and the last time I flew Delta was when the American flight we were on had problems and AA put us on a Delta flight. That was over twenty years ago. These days if Southwest doesn&#8217;t fly there neither do I. I know exactly what level of service I am paying for, they almost always exceed it AND they get me there in one piece and on time. Plus they fight B$ lawsuits to the death and usually win.</p>
<p>But it does sound like our friend, Mr. Roth had already made a similar decision in flavor of Delta, hence all those frequent flyer miles to spend.</p>
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		By: Tracy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tracy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, nothing like the rational response of the foolish.  Bad customer service /= financial windfalls.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, nothing like the rational response of the foolish.  Bad customer service /= financial windfalls.</p>
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		By: Revenge!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Revenge!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This man is insane for suing Delta for $1 million. He should sue them for $10 million. This will be a wake up call for some airline companies to be responsible for their bad customer services they have been given toward fliers. Nearly every ticket purchased is non-refundable dispite the fact those airline companies are usually at fault! I had a bad experience with US Airways. They practically stole my money!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man is insane for suing Delta for $1 million. He should sue them for $10 million. This will be a wake up call for some airline companies to be responsible for their bad customer services they have been given toward fliers. Nearly every ticket purchased is non-refundable dispite the fact those airline companies are usually at fault! I had a bad experience with US Airways. They practically stole my money!</p>
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		By: Joe Bingham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Bingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe a better response than suing would be &lt;i&gt;not using Delta anymore&lt;/i&gt;. For the same reason I don&#039;t fly USAirways. There are plenty of airlines with good service. Use them. It&#039;s like suing Wal-Mart because their stores are dirtier than Target&#039;s!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a better response than suing would be <i>not using Delta anymore</i>. For the same reason I don&#8217;t fly USAirways. There are plenty of airlines with good service. Use them. It&#8217;s like suing Wal-Mart because their stores are dirtier than Target&#8217;s!</p>
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		By: John Burgess		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Burgess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some airlines require that you actively choose or reject travel insurance before they&#039;ll complete an on-line ticket purchase. They also require that you acknowledge that you&#039;ve read and understand the terms and conditions. That last (the understanding part) might be asking the impossible and therefore unenforceable by law, but the airlines have some contractual cover anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some airlines require that you actively choose or reject travel insurance before they&#8217;ll complete an on-line ticket purchase. They also require that you acknowledge that you&#8217;ve read and understand the terms and conditions. That last (the understanding part) might be asking the impossible and therefore unenforceable by law, but the airlines have some contractual cover anyway.</p>
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		By: OBQuiet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBQuiet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone more familiar with details of air travel please correct me if I am wrong. But I thought that ATC only assigns you a departure slot once you button up the plane. If that is the case and traffic is congested, opening up to let on a late arrival could add a great deal of time to  your wheels-up point. What price should the Roths have been charged for delaying all the other passengers by doing that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone more familiar with details of air travel please correct me if I am wrong. But I thought that ATC only assigns you a departure slot once you button up the plane. If that is the case and traffic is congested, opening up to let on a late arrival could add a great deal of time to  your wheels-up point. What price should the Roths have been charged for delaying all the other passengers by doing that?</p>
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