Comments on: Voter fraud: If Dahlia Lithwick repeats a lie often enough, maybe it will become true

By: So shut up. « Likelihood of Success

So shut up. « Likelihood of Success — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:40:10 +0000

[…] Who’s right? Dahlia Lithwick, because “If Dahlia Lithwick repeats a lie often enough, maybe it will become true.” […]

By: Ted Frank

Ted Frank — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:27:59 +0000

While Lithwick’s quotation is just about “funny mustaches” her entire argument is against any sort of prosecutorial effort for any sort of election fraud and against any sort of legal prophylaxis. After all, if it’s never prosecuted or never caught, it’s like it never happened.

By: Bill Poser

Bill Poser — Sun, 25 May 2008 20:25:29 +0000

In response to the update, my criticism was not only that the example cited is not “present day” but also that a single example hardly makes a case for “regularly”. The addtional examples cited still don’t make a good case for regular voter fraud by democrats attempting to vote multiple times. Take the Washington case, for example. There was no voter fraud. There was voter registration fraud. That is, a contractor submitted a bunch of false registration cards, with made up names. They did this in order to get paid for registrations that they didn’t actually perform. No one attempted to use these registrations to vote, and that was not the intent of the people carrying out the fraud. Indeed, it was the left-wing organization (not actually the Democratic Party, which was not involved) that was the victim here since they paid for voter registration work that the contractor did not perform.

By: tyree

tyree — Sun, 25 May 2008 18:11:03 +0000

Years ago when Loretta Sanchez won her Congressional seat it was revealed that at least 800 illegal aliens voted for her. No one was prosecuted, of course. The “Culture of Corruption” moves on.

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Sun, 25 May 2008 15:51:51 +0000

Update: this post summarizes the Washington State situation pretty well: http://soundpolitics.com/archives/003991.html

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Sun, 25 May 2008 15:44:01 +0000

Let’s not forget the Washington Governor’s race of 2004. The current occupant of the governor’s mansion is there after a third recount “found” enough votes to put her over the top by less than 150 votes. It was later found that at least 13 times that number of votes were cast illegally. The whole saga is well documented by STefan Sharkansky over at http://www.soundpolitics.com/. Just browse through the 2004/5 archives.

By: David Townsend

David Townsend — Sun, 25 May 2008 06:50:23 +0000

Loathe though I am to be defending the … interestingly … opinionated Ms Lithwick, surely the key to the quote that you use are the words ‘present day’. To provide 20 year-old examples is hardly devastating to her argument.

By: Melvin H.

Melvin H. — Sun, 25 May 2008 03:07:32 +0000

Bill, TomH . . . how many OTHER cases (read: Florida 2000, Ohio 2004, the House race in California that Loretta Sanchez won her seat the first time (late 1980’s?), Chicago 1960 [and likely others]) do you need? Any kind of shenanigans involving ballots or voting should be prosecuted very seriously NO MATTER WHO DOES IT.

Oh, one other thing: Let’s get over the idea that purging voter rolls is disenfranchisement or “racism/sexism/etc.-ism”, OK? Simply put, if you are dead, in prison, not a citizen of this country (no illegal-immigrants, temp workers, green-card holders, etc. voting!), too young (<18), or not able to vote due to other circumstances, YOU CAN’T VOTE!!!

By: Bill Poser

Bill Poser — Sat, 24 May 2008 21:05:22 +0000

Let me see if I've got this right: a single example of large-scale voter fraud from more than twenty-five years ago in Chicago, a city regarded for several decades as the epitome of political corruption in the United States, is evidence that "present day Democrats regularly steal elections"? This is the kind of illogic that I expect to see in cases reported by Overlawyered.

By: Joe Bingham

Joe Bingham — Sat, 24 May 2008 16:25:35 +0000

In world of warcraft, we call this “WTFpwned.”