Comments on: Suing the chaperone

By: Freakazoid

Freakazoid — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:26:58 +0000

Other comments here:

http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=pluckcomments&key=20080602.dailyrecord.806020314.article.COMMUNITIES40&s=d

By: Rose

Rose — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:42:06 +0000

If the story represents all the facts, then there is only one person responsible, the 18 year woman herself. It is a tragic story, but someone needs to wake parents up and make them realize that when something tragic happens to their kids, it’s not necessarily anyone else’s fault.

By: Jim Collins

Jim Collins — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:19:10 +0000

Last time I checked a person is an ADULT at the age of 18. How can Sadler be a chaperone for an adult? I can understand having chaperones for the cheerleaders who are under the age of 18, but this shouldn’t apply to Crossan.

By: Ted Frank

Ted Frank — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:32:22 +0000

#14: [W]hat exactly is the moral of the story here?

How about “Injustice results when you’re allowed to blame third parties for adults’ volitional acts that injure themselves”? That is obvious common sense that seems to be beaten out of law students such that an attorney can leave a comment finding it mysterious why there is even an issue. That’s not the arbitrator’s fault; that’s the appalling state of American tort law.

By: Ron Miller

Ron Miller — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:27:05 +0000

What scares me about this kind of story is that it is so outrageous it makes you wonder exactly what facts were not included. We already see many of the reported facts are wrong. Agreed upon arbitrators are usually not crazy. I suspect there is a “oh that makes sense” fact or two missing.

Besides, what exactly is the moral of the story here? We can’t trust agreed upon arbitrators? Should we just stop allowing people to bring personal injury claims of any kind in any forum?

By: William Nuesslein

William Nuesslein — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:15:03 +0000

How did the arbitrator come up with the sums? The woman/girl had no dependents, and any lose would be for psychological pain. Those loses are not routinely compensated for the several thousand suicides each year, or for automobile accidents where clever lawyers can not develop a theory involving guilt.

By: MF

MF — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:00:44 +0000

Leaving flowers at the girl’s grave is “harrassment?”

Good grief.

Actually, that would be BAD grief!

By: Deoxy

Deoxy — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:40:41 +0000

I tend to agree with you Ted on most things, but what recourse does Sadler have? I’m not a lawyer so I might be missing alot here.

This website documents a great many cases where the victim of a manifestly unjust legal verdict has exhausted their “recourses” without satisfaction. That this can happen in arbitration does not make arbitration any worse than the status quo.

Now, if it happens MORE often than it does than in the current system, well, that’s a problem, of course, but a single instance doesn’t show that.

By: Daniel Sochor

Daniel Sochor — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:15:54 +0000

Very sad story. Do we know how high the hotel balcony railing was? I think they should be 4+ feet high, low enough to put one’s elbows on and keep most of one’s body and weight on the balcony but not so low that a person in an exuberant mood might be able to lean too far over.

By: jim

jim — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:38:01 +0000

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Nov/09/br/br0485321769.html

I looked around for other Krueger cases when I saw him described as an attorney experienced in cases where a minor is injured in the company of someone other than thier parent.