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		By: Eric in SF		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric in SF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know if California will continue to protect non dog or cat &quot;comfort animals&quot; in light of the ADA specifically excluding them next year?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if California will continue to protect non dog or cat &#8220;comfort animals&#8221; in light of the ADA specifically excluding them next year?</p>
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		By: Sheila Huff		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/07/lawsuit-you-excluded-my-service-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-36885</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheila Huff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She will win and if they make it where monkeys are not under the law than many of disabled people will be out of luck! Monkeys are the main animal used for helping hands,and monkeys can do more for people than dogs can.A dog can not pick up things and pu straws in your mouth.As for eating in a resturant with a monkey well they are cleaner than most kids and have to have as many shots as kids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She will win and if they make it where monkeys are not under the law than many of disabled people will be out of luck! Monkeys are the main animal used for helping hands,and monkeys can do more for people than dogs can.A dog can not pick up things and pu straws in your mouth.As for eating in a resturant with a monkey well they are cleaner than most kids and have to have as many shots as kids.</p>
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		By: Kirsten Richards		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirsten Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to the U.S. Department of Justice, which administers the ADA as it pertains to public businesses, 

&quot;Animals whose sole function is to provide emotional support, comfort, therapy, companionship, therapeutic benefits, or promote emotional wellbeing are not service animals.&quot;

Next year they&#039;ll be publishing an update to 28 CFR 36.104 which defines &quot;service animal&quot; under the ADA  The new wording will exclude exotic animals by adding the following:

&quot;The term service animal does not include wild animals (including nonhuman primates born in captivity), reptiles, rabbits, farm animals (including any breed of horse, miniature horse, pony, pig, or goat), ferrets, amphibians, and rodents.&quot;

Whether she wins or not under the current wording (and I doubt she will) it will not matter come next year.  She&#039;ll still have to leave her monkey at home when she goes out to eat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the U.S. Department of Justice, which administers the ADA as it pertains to public businesses, </p>
<p>&#8220;Animals whose sole function is to provide emotional support, comfort, therapy, companionship, therapeutic benefits, or promote emotional wellbeing are not service animals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Next year they&#8217;ll be publishing an update to 28 CFR 36.104 which defines &#8220;service animal&#8221; under the ADA  The new wording will exclude exotic animals by adding the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;The term service animal does not include wild animals (including nonhuman primates born in captivity), reptiles, rabbits, farm animals (including any breed of horse, miniature horse, pony, pig, or goat), ferrets, amphibians, and rodents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whether she wins or not under the current wording (and I doubt she will) it will not matter come next year.  She&#8217;ll still have to leave her monkey at home when she goes out to eat.</p>
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		By: Liza		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/07/lawsuit-you-excluded-my-service-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-33988</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To ALL of you who JUST-DON&#039;T-GET-IT,
BE GRATEFUL for the outstanding health that you, each of your family members and each of your friends and their family members... currently have, and PRAY that you never gain an understanding of these issues by being forced into a similar situation.
I suggest that you educate yourselves to that understanding rather than learning through direct experience as others have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ALL of you who JUST-DON&#8217;T-GET-IT,<br />
BE GRATEFUL for the outstanding health that you, each of your family members and each of your friends and their family members&#8230; currently have, and PRAY that you never gain an understanding of these issues by being forced into a similar situation.<br />
I suggest that you educate yourselves to that understanding rather than learning through direct experience as others have.</p>
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		By: Don&#8217;t Touch The Service Monkey at Life in the Garden		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/07/lawsuit-you-excluded-my-service-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-26528</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t Touch The Service Monkey at Life in the Garden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] some folks get memos at work like this; on location, at the pt job we&#8217;ve been getting memos on &#8220;service monkeys&#8221;.  The gist of the WORD is &#8220;NO monkeys in the house, AND if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] some folks get memos at work like this; on location, at the pt job we&#8217;ve been getting memos on &#8220;service monkeys&#8221;.  The gist of the WORD is &#8220;NO monkeys in the house, AND if [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: It happens		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It happens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom, what if your very smart and with-it child was in a wheelchair and couldn&#039;t get to the playground at recess?  And you spent six years trying to get the school to do $25,000 worth of work to fix it?  And you even raised the money but they wouldn&#039;t give permission?  And during that time they spent at least $15 million on athletic facilities? And they have several million dollars in their reserve account?   Would you get a lawyer?  Would you be glad to have the ADA?  Remember--private schools don&#039;t have to take your child in the wheelchair, so your only choice is the public school. What would Tom do?  What&#039;s the libertarian position here?  Is it just that disabled children don&#039;t get to participate?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, what if your very smart and with-it child was in a wheelchair and couldn&#8217;t get to the playground at recess?  And you spent six years trying to get the school to do $25,000 worth of work to fix it?  And you even raised the money but they wouldn&#8217;t give permission?  And during that time they spent at least $15 million on athletic facilities? And they have several million dollars in their reserve account?   Would you get a lawyer?  Would you be glad to have the ADA?  Remember&#8211;private schools don&#8217;t have to take your child in the wheelchair, so your only choice is the public school. What would Tom do?  What&#8217;s the libertarian position here?  Is it just that disabled children don&#8217;t get to participate?</p>
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		By: CommiePuddin		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/07/lawsuit-you-excluded-my-service-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-25576</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CommiePuddin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Upon first glance at the headline in my RSS reader made me think this was against Suburban Auto Group:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUBxgdKZ_Y]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upon first glance at the headline in my RSS reader made me think this was against Suburban Auto Group:</p>
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		By: Service animals, cont&#8217;d: &#8220;Ferret barred from Ottawa buses&#8221;		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Service animals, cont&#8217;d: &#8220;Ferret barred from Ottawa buses&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Continuing our theme, Frances Woodard has now lodged a complaint against the public transit authority in Canada&#8217;s capital city for barring the diminutive, weasel-like predator whose companionship, according to her psychiatrist, helps her stave off panic attacks. &#8220;A letter from OC Transpo customer relations sent in May said the decision was a result of fears about allergic reactions and phobias from other passengers and reactions from other animals, such as guide dogs.&#8221; (CBC News, Jul. 23). Monday&#8217;s post on the &#8220;service monkey&#8221; lawsuit from Springfield, Mo. is here. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Continuing our theme, Frances Woodard has now lodged a complaint against the public transit authority in Canada&#8217;s capital city for barring the diminutive, weasel-like predator whose companionship, according to her psychiatrist, helps her stave off panic attacks. &#8220;A letter from OC Transpo customer relations sent in May said the decision was a result of fears about allergic reactions and phobias from other passengers and reactions from other animals, such as guide dogs.&#8221; (CBC News, Jul. 23). Monday&#8217;s post on the &#8220;service monkey&#8221; lawsuit from Springfield, Mo. is here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/07/lawsuit-you-excluded-my-service-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-25311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is one of the reasons I&#039;m against the ADA in general.  Obviously my opinion is libertarian and not mainstream.  Everytime someone gains special rights, everyone else loses them.  If I own a store, I should be able to exclude anybody for any reason.  If my business suffers, its on me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the reasons I&#8217;m against the ADA in general.  Obviously my opinion is libertarian and not mainstream.  Everytime someone gains special rights, everyone else loses them.  If I own a store, I should be able to exclude anybody for any reason.  If my business suffers, its on me.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;She will win. The law is quite clear.&lt;/i&gt;

The law states that for an animal to be a &quot;service animal&quot; and be covered by the ADA, the animal must &quot;be individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with a disability.&quot;

In other words, the animal must perform an act that the disabled person cannot.  (ie, a seeing eye dog that &quot;sees&quot; for the blind.)

The monkey in question performs no such services.  

As such, the monkey is a &quot;companion animal&quot; and not covered by the ADA.

From one of the cited articles, &quot;Rose says Richard helps curb her debilitating social anxiety disorder -- which can cause her to have panic attacks in public..&quot;  Clearly that is not a &quot;service&quot; by any stretch of the imagination.

Once again, citing the article, &quot;Her lawsuit contends the Springfield-Greene County Health Department had no authority to decide that Richard is not a service animal under the Americans With Disabilities Act and, therefore, is not allowed in food establishments.&quot;

In other words, Rose believes that a governmental agency does not have the authority to make a decision that is contrary to what she believes.  

Wal-Mart and the other businesses were relying on the ruling from the Health Department that the animal was not a service animal as defined under the ADA and therefore not allowed the protection under that law.  They should not be held accountable for (a) following the guidelines sent out by the government and (b) following the law when the monkey does not meet the requirements of the ADA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>She will win. The law is quite clear.</i></p>
<p>The law states that for an animal to be a &#8220;service animal&#8221; and be covered by the ADA, the animal must &#8220;be individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with a disability.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, the animal must perform an act that the disabled person cannot.  (ie, a seeing eye dog that &#8220;sees&#8221; for the blind.)</p>
<p>The monkey in question performs no such services.  </p>
<p>As such, the monkey is a &#8220;companion animal&#8221; and not covered by the ADA.</p>
<p>From one of the cited articles, &#8220;Rose says Richard helps curb her debilitating social anxiety disorder &#8212; which can cause her to have panic attacks in public..&#8221;  Clearly that is not a &#8220;service&#8221; by any stretch of the imagination.</p>
<p>Once again, citing the article, &#8220;Her lawsuit contends the Springfield-Greene County Health Department had no authority to decide that Richard is not a service animal under the Americans With Disabilities Act and, therefore, is not allowed in food establishments.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, Rose believes that a governmental agency does not have the authority to make a decision that is contrary to what she believes.  </p>
<p>Wal-Mart and the other businesses were relying on the ruling from the Health Department that the animal was not a service animal as defined under the ADA and therefore not allowed the protection under that law.  They should not be held accountable for (a) following the guidelines sent out by the government and (b) following the law when the monkey does not meet the requirements of the ADA.</p>
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