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	Comments on: Bid to stop suicide fails, San Francisco will pay	</title>
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		By: OBQuiet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBQuiet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has the city sent out the memo prohibiting this sort of behavior on the part of off-duty employees yet? Will it apply to just employees or does the city&#039;s liablity extend to contrcators as well?

Any word from the unions about needing to be paid more for this new limitation on their members personal freedoms while off-duty? Or can they bill for time they spend NOT trying to save peoples lives when the opportunity presents itself? 

WE must let no good deed go unpunished.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has the city sent out the memo prohibiting this sort of behavior on the part of off-duty employees yet? Will it apply to just employees or does the city&#8217;s liablity extend to contrcators as well?</p>
<p>Any word from the unions about needing to be paid more for this new limitation on their members personal freedoms while off-duty? Or can they bill for time they spend NOT trying to save peoples lives when the opportunity presents itself? </p>
<p>WE must let no good deed go unpunished.</p>
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		By: A.W.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A.W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is one example of an overarching point.  We need to infuse ourselves with the notin that people like this--firefighters, doctors, nurses--they don&#039;t have to do this for a living.  They don&#039;t do it for the fabulous pay; even when the pay isn&#039;t too low, these people are smart enough to make even more money doing other things.  They do this, because they care.

So there is something ungrateful about such suits.  you should say &quot;thank you for trying.&quot;  instead we second guess, we sued, etc.  its wrong.  I don&#039;t quite know how to infuse that attitude into our legal system, but that is the attitude we need to have.

And i say this as a lawyer, not as a member of those professions.

The firefighter is a hero for trying.  He doesn&#039;t deserve this treatment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one example of an overarching point.  We need to infuse ourselves with the notin that people like this&#8211;firefighters, doctors, nurses&#8211;they don&#8217;t have to do this for a living.  They don&#8217;t do it for the fabulous pay; even when the pay isn&#8217;t too low, these people are smart enough to make even more money doing other things.  They do this, because they care.</p>
<p>So there is something ungrateful about such suits.  you should say &#8220;thank you for trying.&#8221;  instead we second guess, we sued, etc.  its wrong.  I don&#8217;t quite know how to infuse that attitude into our legal system, but that is the attitude we need to have.</p>
<p>And i say this as a lawyer, not as a member of those professions.</p>
<p>The firefighter is a hero for trying.  He doesn&#8217;t deserve this treatment.</p>
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		By: buz hodges		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buz hodges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[YOU EXPECT LESS FROM &quot;THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CALIFORNIA&quot;??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU EXPECT LESS FROM &#8220;THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CALIFORNIA&#8221;??</p>
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		By: OBQuiet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBQuiet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doug,

&quot;I lived in the Bay area for 5 years and nothing really sunrises me anymore.&quot;

&quot;Sunrises&quot;? Is that the opposite of mooning?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>&#8220;I lived in the Bay area for 5 years and nothing really sunrises me anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Sunrises&#8221;? Is that the opposite of mooning?</p>
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		By: Mo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree w/Doug Carver - I am a Bay Area native, Berkeley no less, and I&#039;m not surprised at all.  There&#039;s no such thing as personal responsibility here anymore.  The court system in all our counties is one enormous joke with the WORST judges in the country; I doubt they even read cases before they ajudicate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree w/Doug Carver &#8211; I am a Bay Area native, Berkeley no less, and I&#8217;m not surprised at all.  There&#8217;s no such thing as personal responsibility here anymore.  The court system in all our counties is one enormous joke with the WORST judges in the country; I doubt they even read cases before they ajudicate.</p>
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		By: John Rohan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Rohan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But imagine how much larger the settlement would have been if the firefighter didn&#039;t try to grab the guy...

These &quot;damned if you do, damned if you don&#039;t&quot; lawsuits are ridiculous. But here the city is entirely at fault ... they are at fault for accepting this settlement!!

But why not? It&#039;s not like it&#039;s their own money they are throwing around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But imagine how much larger the settlement would have been if the firefighter didn&#8217;t try to grab the guy&#8230;</p>
<p>These &#8220;damned if you do, damned if you don&#8217;t&#8221; lawsuits are ridiculous. But here the city is entirely at fault &#8230; they are at fault for accepting this settlement!!</p>
<p>But why not? It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s their own money they are throwing around.</p>
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		By: Doug Carver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Carver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As much as I hate to say this isn&#039;t that what they want. No responsibility. I lived in the Bay area for 5 years and nothing really sunrises  me anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate to say this isn&#8217;t that what they want. No responsibility. I lived in the Bay area for 5 years and nothing really sunrises  me anymore.</p>
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