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		By: The Laconic Law Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s Tidbits		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Laconic Law Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s Tidbits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Sham arbitration in California foiled by courts.  Read the post here. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Sham arbitration in California foiled by courts.  Read the post here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jason		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why has no one asked if Nelson&#039;s Lawyers begged to settle, why they did not show up to get the money???? If someone was offering 1.3 million on a platter for me to take, and I was a gold digger, I would have been ecstatic!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why has no one asked if Nelson&#8217;s Lawyers begged to settle, why they did not show up to get the money???? If someone was offering 1.3 million on a platter for me to take, and I was a gold digger, I would have been ecstatic!</p>
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		By: vickie pynchon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can neither justify nor criticize amount of settlement b/c I do not know the factsk]]></description>
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		By: William Nuesslein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Nuesslein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Rarely does anyone pay $1.3 million for a bogus claim.&quot;

The average 1.6 million dollar payments to 9/11 families were part of a settlement mainly to avoid litigation. My heart went out to those families, but payments should have been based on social welfare needs only. Otherwise we have the victims of the Oklahoma city bombing feeling snubbed.

All the harassment cases that I know about have been shakedowns, even the O&#039;Reilly suit. But, Mike, in general, payments of significant sums of money will be admission of guilt no matter what legal kabuki is brought to the case.

I can&#039;t see how Victoria can justify $1.3 million for hurt feelings. A dozen roses usually works for us insensitive husbands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rarely does anyone pay $1.3 million for a bogus claim.&#8221;</p>
<p>The average 1.6 million dollar payments to 9/11 families were part of a settlement mainly to avoid litigation. My heart went out to those families, but payments should have been based on social welfare needs only. Otherwise we have the victims of the Oklahoma city bombing feeling snubbed.</p>
<p>All the harassment cases that I know about have been shakedowns, even the O&#8217;Reilly suit. But, Mike, in general, payments of significant sums of money will be admission of guilt no matter what legal kabuki is brought to the case.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see how Victoria can justify $1.3 million for hurt feelings. A dozen roses usually works for us insensitive husbands.</p>
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		By: Vickie Pynchon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vickie Pynchon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said, Mike, as always!]]></description>
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		By: Mike Young		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As the original poster, I feel the need to weigh in.  Having represented employers for years (decades), I have no doubt that there are times when a harassed employee deserves to be compensated for outrageous behavior perpetrated generally (but not always) by male superiors utilizing their position of power to obtain benefits (usually sex) unrelated to the workplace or the job.  It&#039;s not so much sexual harassment as it is an abuse of power, and I have no doubt that our law is moving towards the day when abuse of power becomes the tort, regardless of the existence of a protected class.  But that day is not here yet....  And I&#039;m already off topic.  That&#039;s not the point of my post.

It is also true that employers get hit with frivolous lawsuits all the time, especially here in California.  Too many plaintiff&#039;s attorneys and too few legitimate instances of employment abuse. 

And so I understand completely the need for defendants to settle and exonerate themselves at the same time.

However, fraudulent arbitrations is not the way to do it.  

Settle with a confidentiality agreement, and a liquidated damages provision for its breach.  The LD can be a return of the settlement amount.

Or how about skip the fake arbitration and just issue a stipulated press release that both sides agree on.  The plaintiff dismissed the case because of difficulty in proof, or because it turned out to be a legitimate miscommunication that has been resolved, not sexual harassment (or whatever) at all.  For $1.3 million, the plaintiff will probably agree to it.  With careful wordsmithing, the press release may even be not completely misleading.

The point is, there are other ways for the defendant, even a wrongly accused one, to exonerate itself in the public&#039;s eye without resorting to a sham &quot;legal proceeding&quot; that risks diminishing the legitimacy and acceptance of arbitration as a viable alternative to the courts for a just method of resolving real disputes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the original poster, I feel the need to weigh in.  Having represented employers for years (decades), I have no doubt that there are times when a harassed employee deserves to be compensated for outrageous behavior perpetrated generally (but not always) by male superiors utilizing their position of power to obtain benefits (usually sex) unrelated to the workplace or the job.  It&#8217;s not so much sexual harassment as it is an abuse of power, and I have no doubt that our law is moving towards the day when abuse of power becomes the tort, regardless of the existence of a protected class.  But that day is not here yet&#8230;.  And I&#8217;m already off topic.  That&#8217;s not the point of my post.</p>
<p>It is also true that employers get hit with frivolous lawsuits all the time, especially here in California.  Too many plaintiff&#8217;s attorneys and too few legitimate instances of employment abuse. </p>
<p>And so I understand completely the need for defendants to settle and exonerate themselves at the same time.</p>
<p>However, fraudulent arbitrations is not the way to do it.  </p>
<p>Settle with a confidentiality agreement, and a liquidated damages provision for its breach.  The LD can be a return of the settlement amount.</p>
<p>Or how about skip the fake arbitration and just issue a stipulated press release that both sides agree on.  The plaintiff dismissed the case because of difficulty in proof, or because it turned out to be a legitimate miscommunication that has been resolved, not sexual harassment (or whatever) at all.  For $1.3 million, the plaintiff will probably agree to it.  With careful wordsmithing, the press release may even be not completely misleading.</p>
<p>The point is, there are other ways for the defendant, even a wrongly accused one, to exonerate itself in the public&#8217;s eye without resorting to a sham &#8220;legal proceeding&#8221; that risks diminishing the legitimacy and acceptance of arbitration as a viable alternative to the courts for a just method of resolving real disputes.</p>
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		By: Vickie Pynchon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vickie Pynchon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rarely does anyone pay $1.3 million for a bogus claim.  I frankly don&#039;t know what the facts are, but CONTINUOUS harassment by a superior on the job for any reason causes more than just &quot;hurt feelings.&quot;  Our emotional well-being is very often more important to the quality of our lives than our financial well-being.  This is why you see people with families live longer statistically than single people; married men live longer with wives than without them, etc.  We&#039;d LOVE it sometimes if life were entirely rational but none of us are Mr. or Ms. Spocks.  We&#039;re emotional creatures who love, hate, help or kill based upon &quot;feeling.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rarely does anyone pay $1.3 million for a bogus claim.  I frankly don&#8217;t know what the facts are, but CONTINUOUS harassment by a superior on the job for any reason causes more than just &#8220;hurt feelings.&#8221;  Our emotional well-being is very often more important to the quality of our lives than our financial well-being.  This is why you see people with families live longer statistically than single people; married men live longer with wives than without them, etc.  We&#8217;d LOVE it sometimes if life were entirely rational but none of us are Mr. or Ms. Spocks.  We&#8217;re emotional creatures who love, hate, help or kill based upon &#8220;feeling.&#8221;</p>
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		By: William Nuesslein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Nuesslein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn&#039;t the harassed willing to effectively stipulate that her claims were bogus to get the money. What exactly is sham? I hope that Judge Weinstein will voice objection to a system that leads to a $1.3 million payment for hurt feelings. Only then will I be able to admire his ethics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn&#8217;t the harassed willing to effectively stipulate that her claims were bogus to get the money. What exactly is sham? I hope that Judge Weinstein will voice objection to a system that leads to a $1.3 million payment for hurt feelings. Only then will I be able to admire his ethics.</p>
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		By: Edward Wiest		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Wiest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I completely agree that Judge Weinstein (ret.) acted properly in refusing to acquiesce in the creation of a stipulated arbitration award exonerating the defendant without hearing any evidence.  The case, however, should be seen as one in which a crude method failed to solve a real problem for many litigants--the fact that the public airing of a claim, even of little merit, can harm a defendant, and a settlement agreement which states that an exchange of money for a release is not an admission of liability will not be so interpreted by most laymen (e.g., the general public). 

   The question of whether settlement can be employed as a means of removing some of the stain a publicly-aired claim imposes on the defendant is being wrestled with by the courts (see, e.g., Asti Comm. v. The Shaar Fund, Ltd., 2d Cir. No. 08-1815, decided October 20, 2008 (available at http://tinyurl.com/6bcz2c )(refusing to vacate District Court sanction order as provided for in settlement)) and self regulatory organizations in the securities industry (see FINRA/NASD Rule 2130 (available at http://tinyurl.com/59d64o )(requiring arbitration panels to issue express evidence-based findings in order for settlement agreements providing for &quot;expungement&quot; of reference to claim against securities brokers from publicly available records)).  The crude means that this defendant sought to employ to permit settlement to be seen as exoneration should not obscure the fact that such exoneration is often a valid goal when adversaries seek to settle a messy dispute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that Judge Weinstein (ret.) acted properly in refusing to acquiesce in the creation of a stipulated arbitration award exonerating the defendant without hearing any evidence.  The case, however, should be seen as one in which a crude method failed to solve a real problem for many litigants&#8211;the fact that the public airing of a claim, even of little merit, can harm a defendant, and a settlement agreement which states that an exchange of money for a release is not an admission of liability will not be so interpreted by most laymen (e.g., the general public). </p>
<p>   The question of whether settlement can be employed as a means of removing some of the stain a publicly-aired claim imposes on the defendant is being wrestled with by the courts (see, e.g., Asti Comm. v. The Shaar Fund, Ltd., 2d Cir. No. 08-1815, decided October 20, 2008 (available at <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6bcz2c" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/6bcz2c</a> )(refusing to vacate District Court sanction order as provided for in settlement)) and self regulatory organizations in the securities industry (see FINRA/NASD Rule 2130 (available at <a href="http://tinyurl.com/59d64o" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/59d64o</a> )(requiring arbitration panels to issue express evidence-based findings in order for settlement agreements providing for &#8220;expungement&#8221; of reference to claim against securities brokers from publicly available records)).  The crude means that this defendant sought to employ to permit settlement to be seen as exoneration should not obscure the fact that such exoneration is often a valid goal when adversaries seek to settle a messy dispute.</p>
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		By: Victoria Pynchon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victoria Pynchon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yup.  I&#039;ve linked to the legal opinion recounting this tale.  As JOE THE PLUMBER would say -- check out the facts yourself to understand what I&#039;M thinking.   Huh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.  I&#8217;ve linked to the legal opinion recounting this tale.  As JOE THE PLUMBER would say &#8212; check out the facts yourself to understand what I&#8217;M thinking.   Huh?</p>
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