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		By: 1stRichard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Spread the blame, the kill him statement at a McCain rally is fake but it was headline news, the blatant “character assassination” of Joe the plumber, the Cindy McCain smear, from the blogosphere there are such outrages comments as “Bush is a terrorist so therefore McCain is a terrorist” and much more. Is there some firing back in self defense?  You must take this as a whole account of a campaign and there is a lot of blame to be had on the Obama side. “What if, after drinking the Kool-Aid of campaign rhetoric, a rabid supporter sought to perpetrate harm on another candidate?” 

Look at what side stepped over the line first…. 

 rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727

…..”I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this $%(#  ever got to the FBI I was #@(&#038;@, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to %^$%#$#@ all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state”….. 

There is more to “drinking the Kool-Aid of campaign rhetoric”, the virtual media blackout of anything negative about Obama is provoking harm. There are a lot of questions, not only about Ayers and Obama but Wright, Odinga, Khalidi, Rezko, Marzook, Katz, Said, al-Mansour, ACORN and much more. What we have in its place is a void and some of it is filling with what may be provocative rhetoric. And who is responsible for filling this void?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spread the blame, the kill him statement at a McCain rally is fake but it was headline news, the blatant “character assassination” of Joe the plumber, the Cindy McCain smear, from the blogosphere there are such outrages comments as “Bush is a terrorist so therefore McCain is a terrorist” and much more. Is there some firing back in self defense?  You must take this as a whole account of a campaign and there is a lot of blame to be had on the Obama side. “What if, after drinking the Kool-Aid of campaign rhetoric, a rabid supporter sought to perpetrate harm on another candidate?” </p>
<p>Look at what side stepped over the line first…. </p>
<p> rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727</p>
<p>…..”I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this $%(#  ever got to the FBI I was #@(&amp;@, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to %^$%#$#@ all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state”….. </p>
<p>There is more to “drinking the Kool-Aid of campaign rhetoric”, the virtual media blackout of anything negative about Obama is provoking harm. There are a lot of questions, not only about Ayers and Obama but Wright, Odinga, Khalidi, Rezko, Marzook, Katz, Said, al-Mansour, ACORN and much more. What we have in its place is a void and some of it is filling with what may be provocative rhetoric. And who is responsible for filling this void?</p>
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		By: Barack Obama: One Man, One Vote, One Time &#124; ChooseTheHero.com		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/10/in-which-i-get-called-thought-police/comment-page-1/#comment-32733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barack Obama: One Man, One Vote, One Time &#124; ChooseTheHero.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] most obvious example of this, recounted here and  here and  here by Walter Olson, is calls by liberal bloggers to prosecute McCain and Palin for criminal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] most obvious example of this, recounted here and  here and  here by Walter Olson, is calls by liberal bloggers to prosecute McCain and Palin for criminal [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: someone		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t imagine how her comments could possibly have been interpreted as &quot;humor,&quot; especially given the context, in that you did indeed criticize her statements. 
It seems much more likely that she was very angry, decided to intimidate by employing irrelevant (at best- hypocritical and lacking in any degree of self-awareness, at worst) attacks, and hoping that such attacks goad you into a flame-war over who is more Orwellian (and thus leading to a draw). You caught her by surprise by making a reasoned argument against her  flawed contentions. Her deaming her statement as &quot;humor&quot; is the easiest way she can save face.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t imagine how her comments could possibly have been interpreted as &#8220;humor,&#8221; especially given the context, in that you did indeed criticize her statements.<br />
It seems much more likely that she was very angry, decided to intimidate by employing irrelevant (at best- hypocritical and lacking in any degree of self-awareness, at worst) attacks, and hoping that such attacks goad you into a flame-war over who is more Orwellian (and thus leading to a draw). You caught her by surprise by making a reasoned argument against her  flawed contentions. Her deaming her statement as &#8220;humor&#8221; is the easiest way she can save face.</p>
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		By: Not Thought Police after all		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Thought Police after all]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] kind of full-length and unsmiling dissection I did. As I say in a P.S. that I&#8217;ve appended to the earlier post, I&#8217;m glad to take Prof. Kuo at her word when she says she meant no offense, and I hope [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] kind of full-length and unsmiling dissection I did. As I say in a P.S. that I&#8217;ve appended to the earlier post, I&#8217;m glad to take Prof. Kuo at her word when she says she meant no offense, and I hope [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: David Wisniewski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Wisniewski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Free speech for me, but not for thee.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free speech for me, but not for thee.</p>
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		By: Bumper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bumper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Professor Kuo suffers from Group of 88 syndrome. Sadly the cure rate is abysmally low, maybe 1.5 in 88.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Kuo suffers from Group of 88 syndrome. Sadly the cure rate is abysmally low, maybe 1.5 in 88.</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are the dead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are the dead.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Before we stray too far off course -- and the appearance of Nazi comparisons nearly always signals that something of that sort has happened -- Scott&#039;s point about lawprof collegiality calls to mind an incidental point. My City Journal article gave favorable mention to a Prawfsblawg post by Prof. Howard Wasserman which, politics aside, made the needed points about the First Amendment&#039;s relevance. I didn&#039;t realize it then, but Prof. Wasserman also posted that piece at Concurring Opinions itself, which meant that one of Prof. Kuo&#039;s co-guest-bloggers was conspicuously yanking the rug out from under her analysis (though without linking her post or mentioning her by name). Yet Kuo does not call Wasserman names like &quot;Thought Police&quot;, or indeed acknowledge his post at all. The hobnail boots are mine alone to wear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we stray too far off course &#8212; and the appearance of Nazi comparisons nearly always signals that something of that sort has happened &#8212; Scott&#8217;s point about lawprof collegiality calls to mind an incidental point. My City Journal article gave favorable mention to a Prawfsblawg post by Prof. Howard Wasserman which, politics aside, made the needed points about the First Amendment&#8217;s relevance. I didn&#8217;t realize it then, but Prof. Wasserman also posted that piece at Concurring Opinions itself, which meant that one of Prof. Kuo&#8217;s co-guest-bloggers was conspicuously yanking the rug out from under her analysis (though without linking her post or mentioning her by name). Yet Kuo does not call Wasserman names like &#8220;Thought Police&#8221;, or indeed acknowledge his post at all. The hobnail boots are mine alone to wear.</p>
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		By: Deoxy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I suppose I should take offense, but I haven’t managed to get past the comic aspect.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ouchie.  The rest of the thing makes a mockery of her, but this just really brings the pain - you&#039;re so pathetic that your attempts to harm me don&#039;t offend me, they make me LAUGH.  Ouchie.

Of course, the rest of your post is spot-on, as well - being called &quot;thought police&quot; by the people who actually practice this sort of thing would pretty well peg the irony meter, at least if that wasn&#039;t actually a normal part of &lt;i&gt;being&lt;/i&gt; thought police (accuse your opponents of your sins).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I suppose I should take offense, but I haven’t managed to get past the comic aspect.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ouchie.  The rest of the thing makes a mockery of her, but this just really brings the pain &#8211; you&#8217;re so pathetic that your attempts to harm me don&#8217;t offend me, they make me LAUGH.  Ouchie.</p>
<p>Of course, the rest of your post is spot-on, as well &#8211; being called &#8220;thought police&#8221; by the people who actually practice this sort of thing would pretty well peg the irony meter, at least if that wasn&#8217;t actually a normal part of <i>being</i> thought police (accuse your opponents of your sins).</p>
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		By: Walter Olson on the Thought Police &#124; Unfair Doctrine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson on the Thought Police &#124; Unfair Doctrine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Walter Olson@Overlawyered   This was written by Charlie Martin (Colorado). Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008, at 8:36 am. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Walter Olson@Overlawyered   This was written by Charlie Martin (Colorado). Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008, at 8:36 am. [&#8230;]</p>
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