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	Comments on: New at Forbes.com: RFK Jr. to EPA?	</title>
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		By: EPA not going to RFK Jr.		</title>
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		By: Tom Wood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I may, Mr. Fine, you misspoke about JFK and RFK.  JFK inherited the Vietnam War, was never in favor of it, and had issued an executive order to begin bringing troops home just before his assassination in Dallas.  It was LBJ who canceled that order and began the huge buildup of American troops in Vietnam.  RFK was Attorney General at the time; a position that was never subject to the draft.  RFK did the best work on breaking up Organized Crime of anyone before or since.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may, Mr. Fine, you misspoke about JFK and RFK.  JFK inherited the Vietnam War, was never in favor of it, and had issued an executive order to begin bringing troops home just before his assassination in Dallas.  It was LBJ who canceled that order and began the huge buildup of American troops in Vietnam.  RFK was Attorney General at the time; a position that was never subject to the draft.  RFK did the best work on breaking up Organized Crime of anyone before or since.</p>
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		By: Barney Fine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barney Fine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As some may recall, it was Robert Kennedy, who blabbered that God was taking out his revenge on Mississippi because its Governor(Haley B), did not believe in Global warming, in the wake of Katrina.
He made that sutpid remark at a time he thought Katrina had missed New Orleans. He apparently is ignorant of the force of winds, that lifted the water in a storm surge on the Lake, that swept down the 17th Street canal, taking out faulty Corps of Engineers levees, leading to Lake Orleans.
Robert Kennedy would be a  tragic disaster at EPA.
But, he would burn a lot of jet fuel on all the lear jets he cavorts around in, as he makes his sermons to others. What a pious phony.
Is that going to be put under &quot;CHANGE&quot;.
Change in that category would be to bring the USA to its knees economically, but that is kool with the Carbon CAP options lot, who like to play bait and switch with other people&#039;s life.
As some may recall, it was JFK who brought America the Vietnam war, as people like Robert Kennedy got passes, as the front lines were filled with others(AMERICANS), who had to pay the ultimate prices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some may recall, it was Robert Kennedy, who blabbered that God was taking out his revenge on Mississippi because its Governor(Haley B), did not believe in Global warming, in the wake of Katrina.<br />
He made that sutpid remark at a time he thought Katrina had missed New Orleans. He apparently is ignorant of the force of winds, that lifted the water in a storm surge on the Lake, that swept down the 17th Street canal, taking out faulty Corps of Engineers levees, leading to Lake Orleans.<br />
Robert Kennedy would be a  tragic disaster at EPA.<br />
But, he would burn a lot of jet fuel on all the lear jets he cavorts around in, as he makes his sermons to others. What a pious phony.<br />
Is that going to be put under &#8220;CHANGE&#8221;.<br />
Change in that category would be to bring the USA to its knees economically, but that is kool with the Carbon CAP options lot, who like to play bait and switch with other people&#8217;s life.<br />
As some may recall, it was JFK who brought America the Vietnam war, as people like Robert Kennedy got passes, as the front lines were filled with others(AMERICANS), who had to pay the ultimate prices.</p>
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		By: OpenMarket.org &#187; Archive &#187; Wacky Obama Adviser Slated for Attorney General?		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OpenMarket.org &#187; Archive &#187; Wacky Obama Adviser Slated for Attorney General?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Olson also discusses the possible appointment of RFK, Jr., to be EPA Administrator or Interior Secretary, despite having espoused crackpot theories about autism being caused by vaccines, and calling his [...]]]></description>
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		By: Anthony Henry Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Henry Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The job at the EPA calls for someone with a keen sense of both ethics and science. Kennedy is not that person.

The following letter was written in support of Robert H. Boyle (founder of Riverkeeper and author of The Hudson River, A natural and unnatural history) and others who resigned from Riverkeeper rather than support R. F. Kennedy, Jr.&#039;s compromise of the principle that ethics must never be separate from science.

This letter was first published in the Putnam County News and Recorder, Cold Spring, New York, on August 30, 2000 and they have carried it on their website ever since for which they have my thanks. (AHS, 2008)

Letters:

Supports Former Riverkeeper Board Members&#039; Action
Editor,

The Fishkill Ridge Caretakers, Inc. supports Robert H. Boyle, former president of the Riverkeeper, Inc. and former Riverkeeper, Inc. board members John Fry, treasurer, Nancy Abraham, Kathryn Belous Boyle, Pat Crow, Theresa Hanczor, Robert Hodes, Ann Tonetti and Alexander Zagoreas in the action they have taken in resigning from Riverkeeper in opposition to the hiring of a convicted environmental felon to serve in the position of staff scientist on the staff of Riverkeeper.

In issuing this statement of support, The Fishkill Ridge Caretakers wishes to emphasize that ethics cannot be separated from science and that the environmental movement will prosper best in an atmosphere of demonstrated personal responsibility and earned mutual respect.

We encourage individuals as well as environmental organizations to join us in similar expressions of support for the principled stand taken by Boyle and fellow board members in their defense of the ethical integrity of the environmental movement here in the Hudson River Valley.

Boyle and 8 of the 22 Riverkeeper board members resigned from Riverkeeper, Inc. in protest of the hiring of William Wegner. For eight years Wegner operated a ring of smugglers who stole bird eggs directly from the nests of protected cockatoo species in Australia. Wegner and his ring then smuggled the eggs by air to the United States. Birds that hatched and survived were then sold for as much as $12,500.00 each. A federal judge accepted Wegner&#039;s plea of guilty to charges of conspiracy and tax fraud and sentenced him to five years in prison. The judge also found that Wegner had attempted to obstruct justice by committing perjury at the trial of a co-defendant Wegner paid a $10,000.00 fine.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has stated that everyone deserves a second chance and notes that he himself had been given a second chance in that he had once been convicted of a drug offense.

We note, however, that Kennedy&#039;s offense was essentially a victimless crime while Wegner&#039;s offense was a crime against the environment, the people of Australia, the people of the United States and against the birds. In order to avoid detection during the flight, smugglers flushed newly hatched chicks down the plane&#039;s toilet

Although Wegner has been convicted and served his sentence, nothing he or anyone else can do will correct the damage he has done or make his victims whole again.

Wegner&#039;s prison sentence seems to have done little to improve his ethical sense. The resume Wegner submitted to Riverkeeper accounts for his period of incarceration without referring to the fact of the incarceration itself Wegner describes work he performed and omits the significant information that he performed this work while he was serving time as a prison inmate.

Kennedy overstepped his position as attorney for Riverkeeper when, in November of 1999, he hired Wegner. Boyle terminated Wegner after learning of the hiring and upon review of Wegner&#039;s resume, court records and media accounts. The matter came to a climax at a board meeting on June 20th when Kennedy insisted that Wegner be rehired over Boyle&#039;s objection.

While we hope Riverkeeper continues to work to produce changed human beings who think and act differently in regard to the Hudson River and all that pertains to it, we also recognize the primary mission of Riverkeeper is not the rehabilitation of Wegner or of those like him.

Sincerely,

Anthony Henry Smith
Fishkill

(for The Fishkill Ridge Caretakers)
(Fishkill Ridge Community Heritage, a separate organization, has also supported this letter from their beginning.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The job at the EPA calls for someone with a keen sense of both ethics and science. Kennedy is not that person.</p>
<p>The following letter was written in support of Robert H. Boyle (founder of Riverkeeper and author of The Hudson River, A natural and unnatural history) and others who resigned from Riverkeeper rather than support R. F. Kennedy, Jr.&#8217;s compromise of the principle that ethics must never be separate from science.</p>
<p>This letter was first published in the Putnam County News and Recorder, Cold Spring, New York, on August 30, 2000 and they have carried it on their website ever since for which they have my thanks. (AHS, 2008)</p>
<p>Letters:</p>
<p>Supports Former Riverkeeper Board Members&#8217; Action<br />
Editor,</p>
<p>The Fishkill Ridge Caretakers, Inc. supports Robert H. Boyle, former president of the Riverkeeper, Inc. and former Riverkeeper, Inc. board members John Fry, treasurer, Nancy Abraham, Kathryn Belous Boyle, Pat Crow, Theresa Hanczor, Robert Hodes, Ann Tonetti and Alexander Zagoreas in the action they have taken in resigning from Riverkeeper in opposition to the hiring of a convicted environmental felon to serve in the position of staff scientist on the staff of Riverkeeper.</p>
<p>In issuing this statement of support, The Fishkill Ridge Caretakers wishes to emphasize that ethics cannot be separated from science and that the environmental movement will prosper best in an atmosphere of demonstrated personal responsibility and earned mutual respect.</p>
<p>We encourage individuals as well as environmental organizations to join us in similar expressions of support for the principled stand taken by Boyle and fellow board members in their defense of the ethical integrity of the environmental movement here in the Hudson River Valley.</p>
<p>Boyle and 8 of the 22 Riverkeeper board members resigned from Riverkeeper, Inc. in protest of the hiring of William Wegner. For eight years Wegner operated a ring of smugglers who stole bird eggs directly from the nests of protected cockatoo species in Australia. Wegner and his ring then smuggled the eggs by air to the United States. Birds that hatched and survived were then sold for as much as $12,500.00 each. A federal judge accepted Wegner&#8217;s plea of guilty to charges of conspiracy and tax fraud and sentenced him to five years in prison. The judge also found that Wegner had attempted to obstruct justice by committing perjury at the trial of a co-defendant Wegner paid a $10,000.00 fine.</p>
<p>Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has stated that everyone deserves a second chance and notes that he himself had been given a second chance in that he had once been convicted of a drug offense.</p>
<p>We note, however, that Kennedy&#8217;s offense was essentially a victimless crime while Wegner&#8217;s offense was a crime against the environment, the people of Australia, the people of the United States and against the birds. In order to avoid detection during the flight, smugglers flushed newly hatched chicks down the plane&#8217;s toilet</p>
<p>Although Wegner has been convicted and served his sentence, nothing he or anyone else can do will correct the damage he has done or make his victims whole again.</p>
<p>Wegner&#8217;s prison sentence seems to have done little to improve his ethical sense. The resume Wegner submitted to Riverkeeper accounts for his period of incarceration without referring to the fact of the incarceration itself Wegner describes work he performed and omits the significant information that he performed this work while he was serving time as a prison inmate.</p>
<p>Kennedy overstepped his position as attorney for Riverkeeper when, in November of 1999, he hired Wegner. Boyle terminated Wegner after learning of the hiring and upon review of Wegner&#8217;s resume, court records and media accounts. The matter came to a climax at a board meeting on June 20th when Kennedy insisted that Wegner be rehired over Boyle&#8217;s objection.</p>
<p>While we hope Riverkeeper continues to work to produce changed human beings who think and act differently in regard to the Hudson River and all that pertains to it, we also recognize the primary mission of Riverkeeper is not the rehabilitation of Wegner or of those like him.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Anthony Henry Smith<br />
Fishkill</p>
<p>(for The Fishkill Ridge Caretakers)<br />
(Fishkill Ridge Community Heritage, a separate organization, has also supported this letter from their beginning.)</p>
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		By: Brian G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its amazing how many people can say the Wind Farm in Nantucket Sound is a good idea but do not know all the facts and have never even been on the Sound themselves. We can&#039;t let a private developer take a beautiful natural resource and destroy it with these large windturbines that won&#039;t even directly benefit the residents that they will directly impact.Once this is done we can&#039;t undo it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing how many people can say the Wind Farm in Nantucket Sound is a good idea but do not know all the facts and have never even been on the Sound themselves. We can&#8217;t let a private developer take a beautiful natural resource and destroy it with these large windturbines that won&#8217;t even directly benefit the residents that they will directly impact.Once this is done we can&#8217;t undo it.</p>
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		By: Wendy Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a journalist, I never had any strong views about the Kennedy family, one way or another, until I began writing about the Cape Wind case on Cape Cod. What I found out while writing my book really concerned me. RFK Jr. seemed capable of making the most outlandish statements about wind power, but clearly did not understand even the most basic facts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a journalist, I never had any strong views about the Kennedy family, one way or another, until I began writing about the Cape Wind case on Cape Cod. What I found out while writing my book really concerned me. RFK Jr. seemed capable of making the most outlandish statements about wind power, but clearly did not understand even the most basic facts.</p>
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		By: Should Obama&#8217;s Cabinet Include RFK Jr? &#171; SCIENCE-BASED PARENTING		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Should Obama&#8217;s Cabinet Include RFK Jr? &#171; SCIENCE-BASED PARENTING]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] was deeply impressed with the content of his speech, which is why I am not too concerned about the rumors of him being asked to head a high level cabinet position in Obama&#8217;s cabinet, such as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] was deeply impressed with the content of his speech, which is why I am not too concerned about the rumors of him being asked to head a high level cabinet position in Obama&#8217;s cabinet, such as [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Rebecca Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link to Skepchick, but mostly thanks for spreading the word to a wider audience! This is an important issue, especially for those of us who value science and critical thinking. And especially-especially for those of us who value science and critical thinking and who also happen to want nothing more than a successful start to the Obama presidency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to Skepchick, but mostly thanks for spreading the word to a wider audience! This is an important issue, especially for those of us who value science and critical thinking. And especially-especially for those of us who value science and critical thinking and who also happen to want nothing more than a successful start to the Obama presidency.</p>
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		By: Ed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama picked the loathsome, hateful and mega-crooked Rahm Emanuel as his Chief of Staff (Chicago Machine multi-millionaire Emanual was on the Fannie Mae staff while they cooked the books, and he lives tax free in a mansion owned by the &quot;Rahm Emanuel Foundation.&quot;)

Obama is certainly going to appoint that psychotic charlatan Robert F. Kennedy Jr to the EPA.

Carol Browner, the delightful Clinton era head of the EPA, would be a far better choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama picked the loathsome, hateful and mega-crooked Rahm Emanuel as his Chief of Staff (Chicago Machine multi-millionaire Emanual was on the Fannie Mae staff while they cooked the books, and he lives tax free in a mansion owned by the &#8220;Rahm Emanuel Foundation.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Obama is certainly going to appoint that psychotic charlatan Robert F. Kennedy Jr to the EPA.</p>
<p>Carol Browner, the delightful Clinton era head of the EPA, would be a far better choice.</p>
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