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	Comments on: Complaint &#8220;forces eHarmony to offer gay dating service&#8221;	</title>
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		By: clara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When you examine the profile for the New Jersey&#039;s Attorney General Director for discrimination issues (Mr. Vespa-Papaleo), a lot gets explained about why Eric McKinley was even allowed to use the system to harrass eHarmony in such a grotesque way:

 	Mr. Vespa-Papaleo serves as Executive Director of the New Jersey Commission on Civil Rights.  He is on the Executive Board of the GLBT Rights and Labor and Employment Law Sections of the New Jersey State Bar Association. In June 2007 he was elected Chairman of the New Jersey Civil Union Review Commission, following his work on amending state law to provide legal protections for sexual and gender minorities. Director Vespa-Papaleo is a member of the New Jersey State Bar Association, and the Lesbian and Gay Lawyers Association.	 
		
  	Born in Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela, Director Vespa-Papaleo became a naturalized citizen of the United States in 1988. A resident of Bergen County, New Jersey, Mr. Vespa-Papaleo and his husband were married in California in June 2008.

(more details about him on the Attorney General&#039;s web site)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you examine the profile for the New Jersey&#8217;s Attorney General Director for discrimination issues (Mr. Vespa-Papaleo), a lot gets explained about why Eric McKinley was even allowed to use the system to harrass eHarmony in such a grotesque way:</p>
<p> 	Mr. Vespa-Papaleo serves as Executive Director of the New Jersey Commission on Civil Rights.  He is on the Executive Board of the GLBT Rights and Labor and Employment Law Sections of the New Jersey State Bar Association. In June 2007 he was elected Chairman of the New Jersey Civil Union Review Commission, following his work on amending state law to provide legal protections for sexual and gender minorities. Director Vespa-Papaleo is a member of the New Jersey State Bar Association, and the Lesbian and Gay Lawyers Association.	 </p>
<p>  	Born in Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela, Director Vespa-Papaleo became a naturalized citizen of the United States in 1988. A resident of Bergen County, New Jersey, Mr. Vespa-Papaleo and his husband were married in California in June 2008.</p>
<p>(more details about him on the Attorney General&#8217;s web site)</p>
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		By: CT_Yankee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CT_Yankee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think maybe I should sue my proctologist for not offering brain surgery too.  It&#039;s a terrible trend when businesses think they should stick to what they are good at, and avoid areas where they are clueless.  Certainly our politicians would never do such a thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think maybe I should sue my proctologist for not offering brain surgery too.  It&#8217;s a terrible trend when businesses think they should stick to what they are good at, and avoid areas where they are clueless.  Certainly our politicians would never do such a thing.</p>
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		By: On WMBI (Chicago) discussing eHarmony settlement		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[On WMBI (Chicago) discussing eHarmony settlement]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] scheduled to discuss the eHarmony settlement and litigation between 3 and 3:30 Central on the PrimeTime Chicago show on WMBI [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] scheduled to discuss the eHarmony settlement and litigation between 3 and 3:30 Central on the PrimeTime Chicago show on WMBI [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: OBQuiet		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/11/suit-forces-eharmony-to-offer-gay-dating-service/comment-page-1/#comment-35124</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBQuiet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems absurd to me that a company that claims expertise in matching heterosexual couples would be expected to offer other services. Will we next see lawsuits over the fact that outcomes at eHarmony between M-F matchings work out more often M-M or F-F? Is there any reason to think that the data points they use to match M-F will work as well for X-X?

And contrary to the comment by jb&#039;s friend, this isn&#039;t evidence that they are homophobic. They simply claim no knowledge of what would make a good match between people where there is no difference in sex. It is even possible that they had tested the system on X-X couples and found that there was no increased likelihood of a successful pairing. If that was the case, wouldn&#039;t offering the service amount to fraud? I imagine that would be the claim made by the lawyers of disappointed gay clients.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems absurd to me that a company that claims expertise in matching heterosexual couples would be expected to offer other services. Will we next see lawsuits over the fact that outcomes at eHarmony between M-F matchings work out more often M-M or F-F? Is there any reason to think that the data points they use to match M-F will work as well for X-X?</p>
<p>And contrary to the comment by jb&#8217;s friend, this isn&#8217;t evidence that they are homophobic. They simply claim no knowledge of what would make a good match between people where there is no difference in sex. It is even possible that they had tested the system on X-X couples and found that there was no increased likelihood of a successful pairing. If that was the case, wouldn&#8217;t offering the service amount to fraud? I imagine that would be the claim made by the lawyers of disappointed gay clients.</p>
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		By: Reader		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/11/suit-forces-eharmony-to-offer-gay-dating-service/comment-page-1/#comment-35073</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One correction: there was no lawsuit in the NJ case, contrary to your headline. the division of civil rights contacted e-harmony about the complaint, and the company agreed to change its policy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One correction: there was no lawsuit in the NJ case, contrary to your headline. the division of civil rights contacted e-harmony about the complaint, and the company agreed to change its policy.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New Jersey, of course, is a state that does not have gay marriage. More broadly, it would be a shame to treat A&#039;s deplorable lawsuit against B as a reason to worsen the treatment of C, D, E, &amp; F, who may never have heard of the lawsuit, or may sympathize with B when they do hear of it. Why not instead move to fix the part of the law that is directly causing the problem, namely the cause of action that A is using to bludgeon B?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Jersey, of course, is a state that does not have gay marriage. More broadly, it would be a shame to treat A&#8217;s deplorable lawsuit against B as a reason to worsen the treatment of C, D, E, &#038; F, who may never have heard of the lawsuit, or may sympathize with B when they do hear of it. Why not instead move to fix the part of the law that is directly causing the problem, namely the cause of action that A is using to bludgeon B?</p>
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		By: Ryan W.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If there&#039;s one thing in the whole world that could convince me to oppose gay marriage, it&#039;s garbage like this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s one thing in the whole world that could convince me to oppose gay marriage, it&#8217;s garbage like this.</p>
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		By: jb		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/11/suit-forces-eharmony-to-offer-gay-dating-service/comment-page-1/#comment-35030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Analysis from my gay friends:  This is beyond absurd.  In addition to the points made above, paying for an eharmony subscription puts money in the pockets of homophobes, so it&#039;s not clear why gays would not want to encourage people to boycott eharmony instead, and would you accept relationship advice, even if it was free, from someone who thinks you&#039;re a vile sinner and going to hell?  What makes them think they&#039;ll find any quality matches?

My prediction:  in 1 year, even if eharmony opens to gays in good faith, less than .5% of its customers will be gay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Analysis from my gay friends:  This is beyond absurd.  In addition to the points made above, paying for an eharmony subscription puts money in the pockets of homophobes, so it&#8217;s not clear why gays would not want to encourage people to boycott eharmony instead, and would you accept relationship advice, even if it was free, from someone who thinks you&#8217;re a vile sinner and going to hell?  What makes them think they&#8217;ll find any quality matches?</p>
<p>My prediction:  in 1 year, even if eharmony opens to gays in good faith, less than .5% of its customers will be gay.</p>
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		By: Dirk D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dirk D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy,

There was no ruling, it was a settlement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy,</p>
<p>There was no ruling, it was a settlement.</p>
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		By: tim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with psaunders and royb.  From a practical standpoint - why would someone who is gay use a service in which that no gay person is on to find a date?  There are plenty of sites that cater to the gay crowd (heck - met my partner through one)...   this is just plain silly...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with psaunders and royb.  From a practical standpoint &#8211; why would someone who is gay use a service in which that no gay person is on to find a date?  There are plenty of sites that cater to the gay crowd (heck &#8211; met my partner through one)&#8230;   this is just plain silly&#8230;</p>
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