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	Comments on: CPSIA: Part II at Forbes.com	</title>
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		By: Secular Right &#187; On a hard-to-reach library shelf		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-40815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Secular Right &#187; On a hard-to-reach library shelf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] this very bad law needs to be stopped now; its remaining defenders include Congressional potentate Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) and the editorialists of the New York [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] this very bad law needs to be stopped now; its remaining defenders include Congressional potentate Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) and the editorialists of the New York [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: CPSIA and the national press		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39600</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CPSIA and the national press]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Prof. Obbie finds noteworthy the &#8220;weird blind spot&#8221; of the New York Times, which as I noted a week and a half ago (citing commenter Amy Hoffman)  still has not covered this debacle — a crucial point, since [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Prof. Obbie finds noteworthy the &#8220;weird blind spot&#8221; of the New York Times, which as I noted a week and a half ago (citing commenter Amy Hoffman)  still has not covered this debacle — a crucial point, since [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The CPSIA testing requirement is unreasonable.

Product testing as specified by CPSIA requires separate testing of each of the component parts of a children&#039;s product.  Yet the language of the law does not permit testing of the separate components before assembly to qualify as testing of the product.

This is inherently illogical, unreasonable, and unsupportable.  The public does not benefit from this requirement.  Public safety is not improved.  But laboratory income is increased.

Given that each separate test incurs significant cost, one wonders whether the authors and sponsors of the bill receive direct or indirect benefit from the few labs included on the short list of accredited testing laboratories.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CPSIA testing requirement is unreasonable.</p>
<p>Product testing as specified by CPSIA requires separate testing of each of the component parts of a children&#8217;s product.  Yet the language of the law does not permit testing of the separate components before assembly to qualify as testing of the product.</p>
<p>This is inherently illogical, unreasonable, and unsupportable.  The public does not benefit from this requirement.  Public safety is not improved.  But laboratory income is increased.</p>
<p>Given that each separate test incurs significant cost, one wonders whether the authors and sponsors of the bill receive direct or indirect benefit from the few labs included on the short list of accredited testing laboratories.</p>
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		By: ottova		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39329</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ottova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This “nightmare” is a direct result of decades of incompetent supply-chain management.  Legal thought production was controlling the production process and what went into it, and marketing punished production for causing disruptions to the supply chain.  Marketing didn’t care who dealt with it as long as the schedule was not disrupted.  Eventually, those who didn’t make waves were promoted and those who tried to increase the visibility of the problem were punished.  Now people want to punish the Chinese, who never agreed to be responsible for the function in the first place.  As a result, the problem everyone thought someone else was dealing with never got dealt with.  The legislation is nothing but draconian blowback caused by suppliers not engaging in the most minimal amounts of risk management.  Outsourcing became a chimera, whereby companies could opt-out of the shabby grubbiness of manufacturing and assign a NPV of zero to the risk of abandoning production controls to others.  Now the tears flow as legal realizes it’s getting sucked deeper and deeper into the muck that is more appropriately handled by technical professionals.  Too bad those professionals were mostly driven from the field as troublemakers.  The CPSC never was and never will be capable of inspecting quality and safety into all the consumer goods consumed in this country.  Also, dumping the problem on the Chinese is not a defensible strategy in the American courts since the Chinese government will do whatever it wants, including liberal application of the death penalty, to protect Brand China.  Suppliers are delusional if they think their Chinese employees will place their a$$ on the line at the expense of their own skins.  The Chinese refer to the manipulation of testing samples for compliance purposes as “The Golden Sample” and it is often a written requirement in job descriptions for engineers over there.  In the USA it’s called “cherry picking” and it invalidates the results to be drawn from product sampling.  Most organizations find it cheaper to just pull out the checkbook and settle rather than correct their production processes.  Now that the checkbook is going to be much larger, the caterwauling begins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This “nightmare” is a direct result of decades of incompetent supply-chain management.  Legal thought production was controlling the production process and what went into it, and marketing punished production for causing disruptions to the supply chain.  Marketing didn’t care who dealt with it as long as the schedule was not disrupted.  Eventually, those who didn’t make waves were promoted and those who tried to increase the visibility of the problem were punished.  Now people want to punish the Chinese, who never agreed to be responsible for the function in the first place.  As a result, the problem everyone thought someone else was dealing with never got dealt with.  The legislation is nothing but draconian blowback caused by suppliers not engaging in the most minimal amounts of risk management.  Outsourcing became a chimera, whereby companies could opt-out of the shabby grubbiness of manufacturing and assign a NPV of zero to the risk of abandoning production controls to others.  Now the tears flow as legal realizes it’s getting sucked deeper and deeper into the muck that is more appropriately handled by technical professionals.  Too bad those professionals were mostly driven from the field as troublemakers.  The CPSC never was and never will be capable of inspecting quality and safety into all the consumer goods consumed in this country.  Also, dumping the problem on the Chinese is not a defensible strategy in the American courts since the Chinese government will do whatever it wants, including liberal application of the death penalty, to protect Brand China.  Suppliers are delusional if they think their Chinese employees will place their a$$ on the line at the expense of their own skins.  The Chinese refer to the manipulation of testing samples for compliance purposes as “The Golden Sample” and it is often a written requirement in job descriptions for engineers over there.  In the USA it’s called “cherry picking” and it invalidates the results to be drawn from product sampling.  Most organizations find it cheaper to just pull out the checkbook and settle rather than correct their production processes.  Now that the checkbook is going to be much larger, the caterwauling begins.</p>
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		By: CPSIA links		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39310</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CPSIA links]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] leadership of the CPSC for not being tough enough on producers of kids&#8217; goods; now Waxman seeks to reposition himself as favoring deregulatory steps that the Commission has unaccountably failed to implement. Some [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] leadership of the CPSC for not being tough enough on producers of kids&#8217; goods; now Waxman seeks to reposition himself as favoring deregulatory steps that the Commission has unaccountably failed to implement. Some [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Consumer Product Safety Law Backfires, Killing Thousands of Jobs&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39285</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Consumer Product Safety Law Backfires, Killing Thousands of Jobs&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] law&#8217;s sponsors are now trying to avoid responsibility for the regulatory train-wreck their law is causing by proposing cosmetic fixes to the law, which will not b..., to avoid responsibility for the catastrophic consequences of the law, which they do not want to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] law&#8217;s sponsors are now trying to avoid responsibility for the regulatory train-wreck their law is causing by proposing cosmetic fixes to the law, which will not b&#8230;, to avoid responsibility for the catastrophic consequences of the law, which they do not want to [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: CPSIA Draws Mass-Media Criticism &#124; angiemedia		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39280</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CPSIA Draws Mass-Media Criticism &#124; angiemedia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Overlawyered: CPSIA: Part II at Forbes.com (2009-Jan-22) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Overlawyered: CPSIA: Part II at Forbes.com (2009-Jan-22) [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please join me in asking Speaker Pelosi to update her &quot;Pelosi Statement&quot; on this issue and its impact to America.  Our leaders are clearly trying to avoid the issue, which is totally unacceptable in this economic climate and considering the transparency supposedly offered by the new administration.

http://speaker.house.gov/contact/ 

You can find the initial &quot;Pelosi Statement&quot; in the Speaker&#039;s press release archive:  Pelosi Statement on President Bush Signing into Law the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please join me in asking Speaker Pelosi to update her &#8220;Pelosi Statement&#8221; on this issue and its impact to America.  Our leaders are clearly trying to avoid the issue, which is totally unacceptable in this economic climate and considering the transparency supposedly offered by the new administration.</p>
<p><a href="http://speaker.house.gov/contact/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://speaker.house.gov/contact/</a> </p>
<p>You can find the initial &#8220;Pelosi Statement&#8221; in the Speaker&#8217;s press release archive:  Pelosi Statement on President Bush Signing into Law the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act</p>
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		By: Alicia Evans		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39255</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alicia Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the clear statement of this impending crisis.  As a small business owner, though not one directly affected, I know many who will be impacted by this law.  Mothers who hand make beautiful toddler wear out of fabric that&#039;s never posed a lead danger.  College students paying tuition with the gorgeous stuffed creatures they make.  And that&#039;s only the beginning.  Through this law, which started as a way to protect children from the few dangerous toys sold - toys that, almost always, come from a corner-cutting overseas manufacturer - soon the only toys parents can buy will be those mass produced overseas.  

I&#039;ve been trying to raise awareness in my small circle of the world and everywhere I&#039;m met with utter disbelief.  &quot;There&#039;s no way they&#039;ll actually let this law go through!&quot;  Go through?  It&#039;s gone and went!  &quot;I would have heard about something this crazy!&quot;  You would think that, wouldn&#039;t you?  I feel like the lone person on the deck of a ship shouting &quot;Iceburg!&quot; as everyone else dismisses me as an alarmist.  My own mother refused to believe until the American Library Association clearly spelled out just how this would impact her private school&#039;s library.  

I do hope that we see the major news agencies finally awake to this insanity and give the public at large the chance to see just how widespread this problem is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the clear statement of this impending crisis.  As a small business owner, though not one directly affected, I know many who will be impacted by this law.  Mothers who hand make beautiful toddler wear out of fabric that&#8217;s never posed a lead danger.  College students paying tuition with the gorgeous stuffed creatures they make.  And that&#8217;s only the beginning.  Through this law, which started as a way to protect children from the few dangerous toys sold &#8211; toys that, almost always, come from a corner-cutting overseas manufacturer &#8211; soon the only toys parents can buy will be those mass produced overseas.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to raise awareness in my small circle of the world and everywhere I&#8217;m met with utter disbelief.  &#8220;There&#8217;s no way they&#8217;ll actually let this law go through!&#8221;  Go through?  It&#8217;s gone and went!  &#8220;I would have heard about something this crazy!&#8221;  You would think that, wouldn&#8217;t you?  I feel like the lone person on the deck of a ship shouting &#8220;Iceburg!&#8221; as everyone else dismisses me as an alarmist.  My own mother refused to believe until the American Library Association clearly spelled out just how this would impact her private school&#8217;s library.  </p>
<p>I do hope that we see the major news agencies finally awake to this insanity and give the public at large the chance to see just how widespread this problem is.</p>
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		By: jolie_fay@gmail.com		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2009/01/cpsia-part-ii-at-forbescom/comment-page-1/#comment-39233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jolie_fay@gmail.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have also spend the day calling everyone I could think of...Waxman, Rush, Nord, Moore...they seem to be getting worse and worse on this issue.

Yesterday I talked with someone from the Ombudsman&#039;s office who was able to add some clarity for me.

1. Moore and Nord from the CPSC can MOVE BACK THE DEADLINE FOR TESTINGS (I am asking for 2 more years)
2. Moore and Nord CAN ALLOW COMPONENT TESTING

we need to bombard them with these two requests-Comments may be filed by email to Sec102ComponentPartsTesting@cpsc.gov. I was told to tell everyone to put these requests in to this e-mail address. There is also a mailing address on the web site, but he said they WILL be reading these. (he did admit that they do not have time to read every e-mail and every letter, but that they will be reading these-and they do not have very many of these email Comments at this time.)

Another point he made to me was that THERE MAY BE A PUBLIC MEETING ON THIS ISSUE SOON He told me he could be arrested for saying anything more on that subject, but he told me this 4 times in a row, and he kept saying it over and over-then he told me &quot;the engagement is starting to work&quot;, but do not think that you are finally being heard. You are only beginning to be heard. Do not let up. &quot;This CRISIS is not over&quot;

In addition to demanding the two above issues from Nord and Moore, we need to all call Waxman, Rush and our local district congress person. Waxman and Rush need to call a hearing on this matter, IMMEDIATELY and we need to ask our local person to write to Waxman and Rush to also call for a hearing on this matter. 

Someone from the Department of Energy and Commerce told me today (she would not give me her name-weird) that they were waiting for someone in Obama&#039;s office to appoint someone as the new Chairman. This person would replace Nord-who is &quot;acting chairman&quot; Right now we are all in limbo because of politics. Nancy Nord was appointed by Bush and they are waiting for a Democrat to take over her position.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also spend the day calling everyone I could think of&#8230;Waxman, Rush, Nord, Moore&#8230;they seem to be getting worse and worse on this issue.</p>
<p>Yesterday I talked with someone from the Ombudsman&#8217;s office who was able to add some clarity for me.</p>
<p>1. Moore and Nord from the CPSC can MOVE BACK THE DEADLINE FOR TESTINGS (I am asking for 2 more years)<br />
2. Moore and Nord CAN ALLOW COMPONENT TESTING</p>
<p>we need to bombard them with these two requests-Comments may be filed by email to <a href="mailto:Sec102ComponentPartsTesting@cpsc.gov">Sec102ComponentPartsTesting@cpsc.gov</a>. I was told to tell everyone to put these requests in to this e-mail address. There is also a mailing address on the web site, but he said they WILL be reading these. (he did admit that they do not have time to read every e-mail and every letter, but that they will be reading these-and they do not have very many of these email Comments at this time.)</p>
<p>Another point he made to me was that THERE MAY BE A PUBLIC MEETING ON THIS ISSUE SOON He told me he could be arrested for saying anything more on that subject, but he told me this 4 times in a row, and he kept saying it over and over-then he told me &#8220;the engagement is starting to work&#8221;, but do not think that you are finally being heard. You are only beginning to be heard. Do not let up. &#8220;This CRISIS is not over&#8221;</p>
<p>In addition to demanding the two above issues from Nord and Moore, we need to all call Waxman, Rush and our local district congress person. Waxman and Rush need to call a hearing on this matter, IMMEDIATELY and we need to ask our local person to write to Waxman and Rush to also call for a hearing on this matter. </p>
<p>Someone from the Department of Energy and Commerce told me today (she would not give me her name-weird) that they were waiting for someone in Obama&#8217;s office to appoint someone as the new Chairman. This person would replace Nord-who is &#8220;acting chairman&#8221; Right now we are all in limbo because of politics. Nancy Nord was appointed by Bush and they are waiting for a Democrat to take over her position.</p>
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