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	Comments on: Philip Howard, &#8220;Life Without Lawyers&#8221;, cont&#8217;d	</title>
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		By: marv		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that we in the USA, have evolved to believe that individual rights supercede the common good.  Consider the destruction after a hurricane.   The obvious is that one should not build where storms are probable, should take responsibility for self protection of life and assets and should understand that a massive storm is a uncontrolled act of nature.  Ok so one has insurance.  Storn comes to town.  Time for lawyers - what does insurance say, I thought I was fully protected from everything, the free trailers made us ill, the government departments did not give timely help, ...on and on but little personal responsibility to move - &quot;Its always been my home and I will stay till I die.&quot;  Someone owes me for what happened has become the new mantra for everything, everywhere and  all the time.  I was negatively impacted so I should get $$$.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we in the USA, have evolved to believe that individual rights supercede the common good.  Consider the destruction after a hurricane.   The obvious is that one should not build where storms are probable, should take responsibility for self protection of life and assets and should understand that a massive storm is a uncontrolled act of nature.  Ok so one has insurance.  Storn comes to town.  Time for lawyers &#8211; what does insurance say, I thought I was fully protected from everything, the free trailers made us ill, the government departments did not give timely help, &#8230;on and on but little personal responsibility to move &#8211; &#8220;Its always been my home and I will stay till I die.&#8221;  Someone owes me for what happened has become the new mantra for everything, everywhere and  all the time.  I was negatively impacted so I should get $$$.</p>
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		By: February 3 roundup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[February 3 roundup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Maybe there&#8217;s hope for Dahlia Lithwick, she &#8220;shares concerns&#8221; about lame lawsuits and judgment-warping liability fears [Slate, on Philip Howard&#039;s Life Without Lawyers] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Maybe there&#8217;s hope for Dahlia Lithwick, she &#8220;shares concerns&#8221; about lame lawsuits and judgment-warping liability fears [Slate, on Philip Howard&#8217;s Life Without Lawyers] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Anonymous Attorney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just finished reading this book.  It&#039;s got some nice ideas -- a basic theme might be the need for &quot;protection of discretion&quot; in decisionmaking -- but it&#039;s short on concrete proposals for creating &quot;life without lawyers.&quot;  I&#039;m also sure that Howard, a Covington &#038; Burling lawyer in New York, will get chiding from the plaintiff&#039;s bar about how his clients must be thrilled with a book that uses highfalutin&#039; language to shame plaintiff&#039;s lawyers into not suing.  He really gets windbaggy at times, intoning like he&#039;s a founding father or something.  Still, nice effort, and his points need to get out there.

A point he overlooks is this:  the more trusting society he envisions harkening back to existed at a time when there about 100 million (or fewer) people in the United States, about 90 percent of whom were white.  Today, the United States is on track for a population of half a BILLION, with dozens of scrapping racial and ethnic groups and probably 100 different languages.  To me, that&#039;s the real underlying problem, and a major cause of &quot;overlawyering&quot; -- the Tower of Babel that is American society is bound to become lawsuit-saturated. Howard quotes &quot;Bowling Alone&quot; academic Robert Putnam, but omits Putnam&#039;s findings on the destruction of trust, cooperation and discretion that arises in a multiracial society.

I would be very surprised if any of Howard&#039;s proposals go anywhere beyond the pages of his book .  They essentially call for a Japanese level of societal cohesion and agreement, and we are far from that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished reading this book.  It&#8217;s got some nice ideas &#8212; a basic theme might be the need for &#8220;protection of discretion&#8221; in decisionmaking &#8212; but it&#8217;s short on concrete proposals for creating &#8220;life without lawyers.&#8221;  I&#8217;m also sure that Howard, a Covington &amp; Burling lawyer in New York, will get chiding from the plaintiff&#8217;s bar about how his clients must be thrilled with a book that uses highfalutin&#8217; language to shame plaintiff&#8217;s lawyers into not suing.  He really gets windbaggy at times, intoning like he&#8217;s a founding father or something.  Still, nice effort, and his points need to get out there.</p>
<p>A point he overlooks is this:  the more trusting society he envisions harkening back to existed at a time when there about 100 million (or fewer) people in the United States, about 90 percent of whom were white.  Today, the United States is on track for a population of half a BILLION, with dozens of scrapping racial and ethnic groups and probably 100 different languages.  To me, that&#8217;s the real underlying problem, and a major cause of &#8220;overlawyering&#8221; &#8212; the Tower of Babel that is American society is bound to become lawsuit-saturated. Howard quotes &#8220;Bowling Alone&#8221; academic Robert Putnam, but omits Putnam&#8217;s findings on the destruction of trust, cooperation and discretion that arises in a multiracial society.</p>
<p>I would be very surprised if any of Howard&#8217;s proposals go anywhere beyond the pages of his book .  They essentially call for a Japanese level of societal cohesion and agreement, and we are far from that.</p>
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