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		By: L Nettles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L Nettles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This from a reader who thinks organic is for suckers, but still enjoyed the book.   If they read this book I hope they will get something from the author&#039;s attacks the way the USDA over regulates in favor of the large agribusiness concerns.  There is a message there that applies to the economy as a whole.   I also agree with the author about the detrimental effect of the corn subsidies.  If this perhaps encourages their soft little minds to think for themselves its ok with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This from a reader who thinks organic is for suckers, but still enjoyed the book.   If they read this book I hope they will get something from the author&#8217;s attacks the way the USDA over regulates in favor of the large agribusiness concerns.  There is a message there that applies to the economy as a whole.   I also agree with the author about the detrimental effect of the corn subsidies.  If this perhaps encourages their soft little minds to think for themselves its ok with me.</p>
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		By: Richard Nieporent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Nieporent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 18:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For our freshman week book at Columbia, we read the Two Cultures and the Scientific Revolution by C.P. Snow.  Of course that was in 1960, when universities were a little less PC (but very Marxist!).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For our freshman week book at Columbia, we read the Two Cultures and the Scientific Revolution by C.P. Snow.  Of course that was in 1960, when universities were a little less PC (but very Marxist!).</p>
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		By: John Beaty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Beaty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, I think the NYT editors would do us all a service by asking their reporters to take a closer look at ALL the things they report on.

But that&#039;s just me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think the NYT editors would do us all a service by asking their reporters to take a closer look at ALL the things they report on.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 15:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Bill Marler for his characteristically gracious response. I have no wish to question his firsthand account, but that just throws into odder relief the Times article itself (headline: &quot;For Personal-Injury Lawyer, Michael Pollan’s Book Is Worth Fighting For&quot;), with its implied narrative of Pollan&#039;s persecution if not martyrdom and the controversial content of his book as uppermost in all sides&#039; minds. 

Perhaps we can all agree that 1) Michael Pollan tends to get really, really good press at the Times and that 2) editors there would have done a service by asking the reporter to take a closer look at the nuances of the episode, including who was intending to do what by their actions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Bill Marler for his characteristically gracious response. I have no wish to question his firsthand account, but that just throws into odder relief the Times article itself (headline: &#8220;For Personal-Injury Lawyer, Michael Pollan’s Book Is Worth Fighting For&#8221;), with its implied narrative of Pollan&#8217;s persecution if not martyrdom and the controversial content of his book as uppermost in all sides&#8217; minds. </p>
<p>Perhaps we can all agree that 1) Michael Pollan tends to get really, really good press at the Times and that 2) editors there would have done a service by asking the reporter to take a closer look at the nuances of the episode, including who was intending to do what by their actions.</p>
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		By: Bill Marler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Marler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 14:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Walter - it is WSU - Washington State University.  A couple of things.  I served eight years on the board and have given to a variety of scholarships and programs that have nothing to do with food.  Regarding this &quot;pollan-ization,&quot; whether it was because of the $54M budget gap or for some other reason that the program was cut, I was happy to help.  The book, which I have read and do not completely agree with, had nothing to do with my donation.  The point is that this program is one that is important to the University.  I pledged to help support it next year too - and I do not even know what the book is - perhaps it should be yours?

GO GOUGS!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter &#8211; it is WSU &#8211; Washington State University.  A couple of things.  I served eight years on the board and have given to a variety of scholarships and programs that have nothing to do with food.  Regarding this &#8220;pollan-ization,&#8221; whether it was because of the $54M budget gap or for some other reason that the program was cut, I was happy to help.  The book, which I have read and do not completely agree with, had nothing to do with my donation.  The point is that this program is one that is important to the University.  I pledged to help support it next year too &#8211; and I do not even know what the book is &#8211; perhaps it should be yours?</p>
<p>GO GOUGS!</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 14:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for correction. Fixed it in post and my comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for correction. Fixed it in post and my comment.</p>
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		By: Jason Barney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Barney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 14:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The post says the controversy erupted at the University of Washington but the linked article indicates it’s actually Washington State University.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post says the controversy erupted at the University of Washington but the linked article indicates it’s actually Washington State University.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The reference to extensive ties (Marler has served as a trustee for six years, not just attended the university) was meant precisely to head off any reader notion of him as a mere interloper, the better to focus on what if anything might be genuinely problematic (or non-problematic) about the interchange. 

I can see a range of possible views on that, which is why my post didn&#039;t come at the story from a &quot;this-is-outrageous-and-must-be-stopped&quot; point of view. I do wonder, however, why there weren&#039;t more questions asked at a place like the New York Times, which often seems to react with shock-horror-outrage on learning that, say, prescription drug makers are allowed to distribute ballpoint pens to medical students. Maybe next year the sides will be reversed and a WSU trustee high up in Starbucks or the french-fry-potato industry will personally endow a program requiring freshmen to read an elegant and impassioned defense of the current mass food distribution system. If that happens, I can see many people saying, &quot;and that&#039;s fine too, just like the Marler-Pollan episode was fine&quot;, but I somehow doubt the Times will be among them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reference to extensive ties (Marler has served as a trustee for six years, not just attended the university) was meant precisely to head off any reader notion of him as a mere interloper, the better to focus on what if anything might be genuinely problematic (or non-problematic) about the interchange. </p>
<p>I can see a range of possible views on that, which is why my post didn&#8217;t come at the story from a &#8220;this-is-outrageous-and-must-be-stopped&#8221; point of view. I do wonder, however, why there weren&#8217;t more questions asked at a place like the New York Times, which often seems to react with shock-horror-outrage on learning that, say, prescription drug makers are allowed to distribute ballpoint pens to medical students. Maybe next year the sides will be reversed and a WSU trustee high up in Starbucks or the french-fry-potato industry will personally endow a program requiring freshmen to read an elegant and impassioned defense of the current mass food distribution system. If that happens, I can see many people saying, &#8220;and that&#8217;s fine too, just like the Marler-Pollan episode was fine&#8221;, but I somehow doubt the Times will be among them.</p>
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		By: Max Kennerly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Kennerly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 12:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a fair description of what happened. One of two things happened:

(1) The university ran out of money to fund the program; or,
(2) The university lied about running out of money and actually bowed to political pressure from agribusiness.

When the lawyer -- whose &quot;extensive ties,&quot; whatever that means, includes him being an alumni, not just some interloper -- agreed to fund the program, that shut down objections entirely, because the &quot;objections&quot; were all claimed to be financial. 

If #2 was the real reason, well, too bad, they trapped themselves by lying about it. If there&#039;s a &quot;controversy&quot; about the book&#039;s content then it should be raised in public.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a fair description of what happened. One of two things happened:</p>
<p>(1) The university ran out of money to fund the program; or,<br />
(2) The university lied about running out of money and actually bowed to political pressure from agribusiness.</p>
<p>When the lawyer &#8212; whose &#8220;extensive ties,&#8221; whatever that means, includes him being an alumni, not just some interloper &#8212; agreed to fund the program, that shut down objections entirely, because the &#8220;objections&#8221; were all claimed to be financial. </p>
<p>If #2 was the real reason, well, too bad, they trapped themselves by lying about it. If there&#8217;s a &#8220;controversy&#8221; about the book&#8217;s content then it should be raised in public.</p>
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