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		By: July 16 roundup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[July 16 roundup]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Law Dean Announces New Admission Policy in Wake of Scandal&#8221; [NLJ; earlier] &#8220;U of I Law School Got Scholarship Cash for Clout Admissions&#8221; [ABA [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Law Dean Announces New Admission Policy in Wake of Scandal&#8221; [NLJ; earlier] &#8220;U of I Law School Got Scholarship Cash for Clout Admissions&#8221; [ABA [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Defending the University of Illinois		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Defending the University of Illinois]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Larry Ribstein thinks indignation over political influence on law school admissions would be better directed at the politicians who arm-twist university administrators. Earlier here. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Larry Ribstein thinks indignation over political influence on law school admissions would be better directed at the politicians who arm-twist university administrators. Earlier here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Friday, June 26, 2009: Daily Handpicked Headlines :: Daily Uprising		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Overlawyered: Illinois Law School Scandals [...]]]></description>
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		By: John Steele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Steele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tekel,  your realpolitik made me laugh out loud.  By chance, are you from Chicago, Baltimore, or New Orleans?  :-)

Steve, thanks, that&#039;s why I took great care in my post to be an agnostic about the facts in that case and to stress the need for an impartial postmortem and public disclosure.  At the same time, I personally find the evidence for gaming/concealing on a national scale to be so widespread as to be beyond a reasonable doubt as a general matter.  (Did you read the recent revelations about how the University of Florida official cast his ballots?)  Again, I agree that the DePaul case isn&#039;t clear from reading the competing accounts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tekel,  your realpolitik made me laugh out loud.  By chance, are you from Chicago, Baltimore, or New Orleans?  🙂</p>
<p>Steve, thanks, that&#8217;s why I took great care in my post to be an agnostic about the facts in that case and to stress the need for an impartial postmortem and public disclosure.  At the same time, I personally find the evidence for gaming/concealing on a national scale to be so widespread as to be beyond a reasonable doubt as a general matter.  (Did you read the recent revelations about how the University of Florida official cast his ballots?)  Again, I agree that the DePaul case isn&#8217;t clear from reading the competing accounts.</p>
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		By: Steve Phelan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Phelan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[with respect, it seems like the Dean was using the ABA to score points in some internal financial squabble. A Dean playing chicken with a Provost has to expect to come to a sticky end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with respect, it seems like the Dean was using the ABA to score points in some internal financial squabble. A Dean playing chicken with a Provost has to expect to come to a sticky end.</p>
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		By: tekel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tekel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Students are taught that gaming the numbers and then concealing it, fibbing about it, or rationalizing it, is what grown-ups do for a living in the real world.&lt;/i&gt;

sounds about right to me.  Isn&#039;t that essentially the whole point of American society?  Good on Illinois for teaching its students something practical that they&#039;ll be able to use for the rest of their professional lives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Students are taught that gaming the numbers and then concealing it, fibbing about it, or rationalizing it, is what grown-ups do for a living in the real world.</i></p>
<p>sounds about right to me.  Isn&#8217;t that essentially the whole point of American society?  Good on Illinois for teaching its students something practical that they&#8217;ll be able to use for the rest of their professional lives.</p>
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