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	Comments on: &#8220;EU to Extinguish Lightbulb Art?&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Lighthouse10		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, and similarly in the USA  (The House Energy Bill now before the Senate)  there is special regulation proposed on &quot;the illumination of artworks&quot;


Hardly surprising about the German (and other European) hoarding that&#039;s going on...

Europeans and Americans choose to buy ordinary light bulbs around 9 times out of 10.
Banning &lt;b&gt;what people want&lt;/b&gt; gives the supposed savings - no point in banning an impopular product!

If new LED lights -or improved CFLs- &lt;b&gt;are good&lt;/b&gt;,
people will buy them - no need to ban ordinary light bulbs (little point).
If they are not good, people will not buy them - no need to ban ordinary light bulbs (no point).
The arrival of the transistor didn&#039;t mean that more energy using radio tubes had to be banned... they were bought less anyway.

&lt;b&gt;All lights have advantages&lt;/b&gt;
The ordinary simple light bulb has for many people a pleasing appearance, it responds quickly with bright broad spectrum light, is easy to use with dimmers and other equipment, can come in small sizes, and has safely been used for over 100 years.

&lt;b&gt;100 W+ equivalent brightness&lt;/b&gt; is a particular issue - difficult and expensive with both fluorescents and LEDS - yet such incandescent bulbs are  first in line for banning in both America and the EU

&lt;b&gt;Energy?&lt;/b&gt;
Since when does Europe or America need to save on electricity?
There is no energy shortage.
Note that if there was an energy shortage, the price rise would make people buy more efficient products anyway - no need to legislate for it.

Energy security?
There are usually plenty of local energy sources,
Middle East oil is not used for electricity generation, 1/2 world uranium exports are from Canada and Australia.

Consumers - not politicians - pay for the energy used.
Certainly it is good to let people know how they can save energy and money - but why force them to do it?


&lt;b&gt;Emissions?&lt;/b&gt;
Most cars have emissions.
But does a light bulb give out any gases?
Power stations might not either:
In Sweden and France, as in Washington state practically all electricity is emission-free, while around half of it is in many European countries and in states like New York and California.
Why should emission-free households be denied the use of lighting they obviously want to use?
Low emission households will increase everywhere, since emissions will be reduced anyway through the planned use of coal/gas processing technology or energy substitution.

Also, the savings amounts  can be questioned for many reasons:
For a referenced list of reasons against light bulb bans, see
    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ceolas.net/#li1x&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ceolas.net/#li1x&lt;/a&gt; onwards


Even if a reduction in use &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; needed, then &lt;b&gt;taxation&lt;/b&gt; to reduce consumption would make more sense since government can use the income to reduce emissions (home insulation schemes, renewable projects etc) more than any remaining product use causes such problems. 
People can still buy what they want, unlike with bans. 
However taxation on electrical appliances is hardly needed either, and is in principle wrong for similar reasons to bans (for example, emission-free households are hit too).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and similarly in the USA  (The House Energy Bill now before the Senate)  there is special regulation proposed on &#8220;the illumination of artworks&#8221;</p>
<p>Hardly surprising about the German (and other European) hoarding that&#8217;s going on&#8230;</p>
<p>Europeans and Americans choose to buy ordinary light bulbs around 9 times out of 10.<br />
Banning <b>what people want</b> gives the supposed savings &#8211; no point in banning an impopular product!</p>
<p>If new LED lights -or improved CFLs- <b>are good</b>,<br />
people will buy them &#8211; no need to ban ordinary light bulbs (little point).<br />
If they are not good, people will not buy them &#8211; no need to ban ordinary light bulbs (no point).<br />
The arrival of the transistor didn&#8217;t mean that more energy using radio tubes had to be banned&#8230; they were bought less anyway.</p>
<p><b>All lights have advantages</b><br />
The ordinary simple light bulb has for many people a pleasing appearance, it responds quickly with bright broad spectrum light, is easy to use with dimmers and other equipment, can come in small sizes, and has safely been used for over 100 years.</p>
<p><b>100 W+ equivalent brightness</b> is a particular issue &#8211; difficult and expensive with both fluorescents and LEDS &#8211; yet such incandescent bulbs are  first in line for banning in both America and the EU</p>
<p><b>Energy?</b><br />
Since when does Europe or America need to save on electricity?<br />
There is no energy shortage.<br />
Note that if there was an energy shortage, the price rise would make people buy more efficient products anyway &#8211; no need to legislate for it.</p>
<p>Energy security?<br />
There are usually plenty of local energy sources,<br />
Middle East oil is not used for electricity generation, 1/2 world uranium exports are from Canada and Australia.</p>
<p>Consumers &#8211; not politicians &#8211; pay for the energy used.<br />
Certainly it is good to let people know how they can save energy and money &#8211; but why force them to do it?</p>
<p><b>Emissions?</b><br />
Most cars have emissions.<br />
But does a light bulb give out any gases?<br />
Power stations might not either:<br />
In Sweden and France, as in Washington state practically all electricity is emission-free, while around half of it is in many European countries and in states like New York and California.<br />
Why should emission-free households be denied the use of lighting they obviously want to use?<br />
Low emission households will increase everywhere, since emissions will be reduced anyway through the planned use of coal/gas processing technology or energy substitution.</p>
<p>Also, the savings amounts  can be questioned for many reasons:<br />
For a referenced list of reasons against light bulb bans, see<br />
    <a href="http://www.ceolas.net/#li1x" rel="nofollow">http://www.ceolas.net/#li1x</a> onwards</p>
<p>Even if a reduction in use <b>was</b> needed, then <b>taxation</b> to reduce consumption would make more sense since government can use the income to reduce emissions (home insulation schemes, renewable projects etc) more than any remaining product use causes such problems.<br />
People can still buy what they want, unlike with bans.<br />
However taxation on electrical appliances is hardly needed either, and is in principle wrong for similar reasons to bans (for example, emission-free households are hit too).</p>
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		By: Bill Poser		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are additional consequences of a total ban on incandescent bulbs. They are used in certain applications as low-wattage heat sources, e.g. for incubating poultry, and are used in laboratories where the radio frequency emissions from fluorescent bulbs are a problem. These do have long-term solutions (other heating elements and light emitting diodes respectively) but in the short term a ban on incandescents could be quite disruptive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are additional consequences of a total ban on incandescent bulbs. They are used in certain applications as low-wattage heat sources, e.g. for incubating poultry, and are used in laboratories where the radio frequency emissions from fluorescent bulbs are a problem. These do have long-term solutions (other heating elements and light emitting diodes respectively) but in the short term a ban on incandescents could be quite disruptive.</p>
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