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		By: Bumper		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zero tolerance has it&#039;s roots in racial discrimination. School administrators were purportedly punishing minority students harsher than non-minority students, so here came the law suits and Zero Intelligence was the response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zero tolerance has it&#8217;s roots in racial discrimination. School administrators were purportedly punishing minority students harsher than non-minority students, so here came the law suits and Zero Intelligence was the response.</p>
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		By: Georg Felis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georg Felis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hereby nominate Ken for a Comment of the Thread Award.  At the current rate of idiocy, schools will declare Sporks to be weapons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hereby nominate Ken for a Comment of the Thread Award.  At the current rate of idiocy, schools will declare Sporks to be weapons.</p>
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		By: A.W.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A.W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deoxy

Well, maybe i am misinformed.  but it always seemed to me that zero tolerance fever swept this country after columbine.

One way or the other, there has to be some pushback.  and i guess it is on the courts to do it, although to be fair it seems this particular school district came to its senses.

And totally agree on the dangers of things that have to be there.  There is no way to eliminate all sharp objects from school, people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deoxy</p>
<p>Well, maybe i am misinformed.  but it always seemed to me that zero tolerance fever swept this country after columbine.</p>
<p>One way or the other, there has to be some pushback.  and i guess it is on the courts to do it, although to be fair it seems this particular school district came to its senses.</p>
<p>And totally agree on the dangers of things that have to be there.  There is no way to eliminate all sharp objects from school, people.</p>
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		By: Deoxy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deoxy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As has been pointed out, &quot;zero-tolerence&quot; was NOT adopted to prevent Columbine-style violence, it was adopted to prevent and defend against lawsuits, end of story.  Any attempt to defend it on other grounds will end up sounding silly.

But then, this particular silly defense is PARTICULARLY silly:

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is no parent who wants to get a phone call where they hear that their child no longer has two good seeing eyes because there was a scuffle and someone pulled out a knife&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A &lt;i&gt;knife&lt;/i&gt;?  How about a PENCIL?  Or a pen?  Scissors?  A small ruler?  A FINGER?!?!?  That particular silly person is a bit beyond the usual in terms of idiocy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has been pointed out, &#8220;zero-tolerence&#8221; was NOT adopted to prevent Columbine-style violence, it was adopted to prevent and defend against lawsuits, end of story.  Any attempt to defend it on other grounds will end up sounding silly.</p>
<p>But then, this particular silly defense is PARTICULARLY silly:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is no parent who wants to get a phone call where they hear that their child no longer has two good seeing eyes because there was a scuffle and someone pulled out a knife</p></blockquote>
<p>A <i>knife</i>?  How about a PENCIL?  Or a pen?  Scissors?  A small ruler?  A FINGER?!?!?  That particular silly person is a bit beyond the usual in terms of idiocy.</p>
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		By: Frank C ostanza		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank C ostanza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Examples of zero tolerance I&#039;ve read about recently:
A young student who was expelled for getting a cake knife from the school kitchen to cut his birthday cake.

A baseball player who was arrested for having a bat in his car parked on school grounds. The bat was part of a trophy he had won.

And a youngster who was expelled for having a drawing of a gun in his sketchbook.

I wonder how many teachers have objects that could be classified as &quot;weapons&quot; on their persons daily. Nail files? Swiss Army knives?  Don&#039;t forget, zero tolerance rules doesn&#039;t apply to teachers and administrators. Sort of like Congress and health insurance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Examples of zero tolerance I&#8217;ve read about recently:<br />
A young student who was expelled for getting a cake knife from the school kitchen to cut his birthday cake.</p>
<p>A baseball player who was arrested for having a bat in his car parked on school grounds. The bat was part of a trophy he had won.</p>
<p>And a youngster who was expelled for having a drawing of a gun in his sketchbook.</p>
<p>I wonder how many teachers have objects that could be classified as &#8220;weapons&#8221; on their persons daily. Nail files? Swiss Army knives?  Don&#8217;t forget, zero tolerance rules doesn&#8217;t apply to teachers and administrators. Sort of like Congress and health insurance.</p>
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		By: A.W.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A.W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert,

You&#039;re joking, right?  its hard to tell on the internet.

Anyway the story is here:

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20091013/NEWS/91013057&#038;referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re joking, right?  its hard to tell on the internet.</p>
<p>Anyway the story is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20091013/NEWS/91013057&#038;referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20091013/NEWS/91013057&#038;referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL</a></p>
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		By: Nathan Shumate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Shumate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Robert: And probably a racist, too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert: And probably a racist, too!</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The kid is allowed back in! (The news today, Wednesday).

This is OUTRAGEOUS. Because he was a member of a particular CHURCH/CULT (the &quot;Boy Scouts&quot;), they made a provision for him.

This sickens me. While I think the rule was foolish, using a religious test as a basis of a decision is FAR MORE UNAMERICAN than that rule was.

Anyone who doesn&#039;t see this is a zealot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kid is allowed back in! (The news today, Wednesday).</p>
<p>This is OUTRAGEOUS. Because he was a member of a particular CHURCH/CULT (the &#8220;Boy Scouts&#8221;), they made a provision for him.</p>
<p>This sickens me. While I think the rule was foolish, using a religious test as a basis of a decision is FAR MORE UNAMERICAN than that rule was.</p>
<p>Anyone who doesn&#8217;t see this is a zealot.</p>
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		By: SeaSpray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeaSpray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think this is appalling!

As a parent.. I would refuse to send my innocent SIX year old to a reform school.  I would be looking for a public apology that restores honor to this child... this impressionable child.

I am not a lawsuit person but let me tell you... I would seek legal council if this situation were not *immediately* remedied!  This is a child.  Children that age are happy to go to school..proud of their activities... and they are CHILDREN.  And lobby for a change in the system... bring good out of bad.

Surely these supposedly educated adults have the capability to be discerning regarding imminent danger.

If anything... then put responsibility on the parents to know of everything their child is bringing to school.. you know.. the adults.

I would never have thought of that as a potential weapon.

Shame on this school district!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is appalling!</p>
<p>As a parent.. I would refuse to send my innocent SIX year old to a reform school.  I would be looking for a public apology that restores honor to this child&#8230; this impressionable child.</p>
<p>I am not a lawsuit person but let me tell you&#8230; I would seek legal council if this situation were not *immediately* remedied!  This is a child.  Children that age are happy to go to school..proud of their activities&#8230; and they are CHILDREN.  And lobby for a change in the system&#8230; bring good out of bad.</p>
<p>Surely these supposedly educated adults have the capability to be discerning regarding imminent danger.</p>
<p>If anything&#8230; then put responsibility on the parents to know of everything their child is bringing to school.. you know.. the adults.</p>
<p>I would never have thought of that as a potential weapon.</p>
<p>Shame on this school district!</p>
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		By: Bob Lipton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Lipton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I once ran over a friend with a bicycle.  And on another occasion I was stabbed with a pencil.

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once ran over a friend with a bicycle.  And on another occasion I was stabbed with a pencil.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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