Comments on: November 18 roundup

By: Bill Poser

Bill Poser — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:27:01 +0000

Coffee buffs@Let's grant that coffee must be brewed at a high temperature. Why does that imply that it must be served at such a temperature? If the ideal brewing temperature is indeed dangerous to customers, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect the purveyors to let it cool down a bit before serving?

By: Bill Poser

Bill Poser — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:06:54 +0000

The idea that allowing police to benefit directly from property seizures would do anything but lead to corruption and unfair seizures is mind-boggling. What are legislators smoking?

By: MF

MF — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:38:58 +0000

Robert: BSA is not a church, nor is it affiliated with any church. BSA merely requires adherence to *some* faith. Separation of church and state claims (which are bogus in the first place, but this is not the time nor place for that discussion) do not apply. Oh, and you’re right, ZTPs *are* stupid!

(Lack of) disclaimer: I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of BSA. Not that there’s anything wrong with it. 🙂

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:28:09 +0000

I’m sick and tired of “Zachary Christie” who was able to leverage his membership in a particular Church (the Boy Scouts of America) to get special treatment wrt his school’s zero tolerance policy. ZTPs are stupid, I’ll agree, but giving a person special treatment because his knife was a religious icon of his “Cub Scout” group and not, for example, a Satanist group, is even more horrendous.

By: No Name Guy

No Name Guy — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:06:08 +0000

Re the coffee: Again, said Law prof is trying to force the physical reality of properly brewing & serving coffee into some lawyer construct of ‘safe’ in saying that “custom” doesn’t protect against and unreasonable hazzard.

Well, coffee that’s brewed at the tepid temperatures that the prof proposes is simply crap.

see
http://www.boyds.com/coffee/brewingguide.html
and scroll down a bit for temperature.

Snip from above link:
Temperature
A second requirement of water for good coffee brewing is the water temperature as it passes over the coffee grounds. Ideal brewing temperature is 200°F, plus or minus 5°F (at sea level). Subtract 2°F for every 1,000 feet of elevation. Too low a temperature causes flavor compounds not to dissolve resulting in an under extracted weak beverage. Too high a temperature will cause flavor changes resulting in an over-extracted bitter and astringent beverage. By maintaining the proper temperature throughout the brew cycle, optimum extraction can be attained.

A simple google search of “ideal coffee brewing temperature” will reveal that to make decent coffee, it MUST be brewed at 195 to 205 degrees F.

Also see the “Held” section from the above link:
Snip
Serving
Serve coffee as soon after brewing as possible. Coffee loses flavor and aroma quickly. If brewed coffee must be “held” on a direct heat source, it should be held at 185°F, and for no longer than 20 minutes.