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		By: &#8221; Electrosensitives tortured by a radio tower that had been switched off for six weeks&#8221;		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8221; Electrosensitives tortured by a radio tower that had been switched off for six weeks&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
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		By: William Nuesslein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Nuesslein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem with experiments or demographic analysis in this case is that there is no mechanism by which radio waves by themselves to cause damage. The second half arguments above are sophomoric.

Peter&#039;s testimony on the power of suggestion is persuasive, and applies to Gulf War Syndrome, 911 effects, and many other cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with experiments or demographic analysis in this case is that there is no mechanism by which radio waves by themselves to cause damage. The second half arguments above are sophomoric.</p>
<p>Peter&#8217;s testimony on the power of suggestion is persuasive, and applies to Gulf War Syndrome, 911 effects, and many other cases.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Le Mur

Yes you are correct, it was only half complete.  What i did not say was that the intention was that about 6 weeks after the supposed switch-on we would switch it on for real, specifically to cope with the problem you outlined.    Not a real double blind test but the best in the circumstances.

As I said we had to terminate it early because of the notification to sue.

Peter]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Le Mur</p>
<p>Yes you are correct, it was only half complete.  What i did not say was that the intention was that about 6 weeks after the supposed switch-on we would switch it on for real, specifically to cope with the problem you outlined.    Not a real double blind test but the best in the circumstances.</p>
<p>As I said we had to terminate it early because of the notification to sue.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		By: nevins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nevins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It wasn&#039;t likely intended to be a rigorous clinical study with blinded cross-over design.
But it did have the effect of flushing out and exposing the charlatans and opportunists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t likely intended to be a rigorous clinical study with blinded cross-over design.<br />
But it did have the effect of flushing out and exposing the charlatans and opportunists.</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be setting up a large and powerful looking set of magnets, coils, sparking wheels and any electrical other crap I could find, just on my side of the property line.

Un-powered, of course. But I&#039;d lay long odds Mr. Magnetic would bite.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be setting up a large and powerful looking set of magnets, coils, sparking wheels and any electrical other crap I could find, just on my side of the property line.</p>
<p>Un-powered, of course. But I&#8217;d lay long odds Mr. Magnetic would bite.</p>
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		By: VMS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VMS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Peter. 

Your experiment was only half complete . You needed information as to the effects on the &quot;population&quot; when the transmitter was switched on. Your observation is akin to the &quot;placebo effect&quot; in a controlled study as to the side effects of a particular drug. Without actually giving out the drug, there is no way to demonstrate whether or not it has measurable side effects above and beyond what are caused by the placebo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Peter. </p>
<p>Your experiment was only half complete . You needed information as to the effects on the &#8220;population&#8221; when the transmitter was switched on. Your observation is akin to the &#8220;placebo effect&#8221; in a controlled study as to the side effects of a particular drug. Without actually giving out the drug, there is no way to demonstrate whether or not it has measurable side effects above and beyond what are caused by the placebo.</p>
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		By: Le Mur		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Le Mur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The guy might be crazy, or maybe he just wants some free advertising for his books (I&#039;m guessing a bit of each): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Firstenberg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy might be crazy, or maybe he just wants some free advertising for his books (I&#8217;m guessing a bit of each): <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Firstenberg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Firstenberg</a></p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Brian C.

A company I worked for a few year ago did almost exactly what you suggested.  There was a lot of talk in the press about the Tetra system being really dangerous because the pulse transmissions matched you delta waves (or something) so we got a lot of resistance to fitting our transmitters.

The company instigated health research where they asked everyone surrounding a new Base station to fill in health monitoring forms to assess health effects before and after switch on.

Early indications were that something like 50% of people reported worse health after switch on (usually described a &#039;feeling unwell&#039; rather that anything specific or serious)

A few weeks after switch on the research had to be terminated as we had notification that we were being sued. Apparently our transmitters were causing one person to summer from insomnia, dizziness, chronic fatigue etc etc and we were being sued as he was so ill that he was unable to go to work.  The research was terminated because we had to come clean and tell the lawyers that we hadn&#039;t actually switched the transmitter on at all.  

We were doing the exercise to prove just how gullible and suggestive people were. We proved that if you hint that something may cause illness, half the population will feel ill and a few will feel really ill (or think they do).

This should not be a big surprise.  If you suggest that X-Factor is good entertainment then half the population will watch it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Brian C.</p>
<p>A company I worked for a few year ago did almost exactly what you suggested.  There was a lot of talk in the press about the Tetra system being really dangerous because the pulse transmissions matched you delta waves (or something) so we got a lot of resistance to fitting our transmitters.</p>
<p>The company instigated health research where they asked everyone surrounding a new Base station to fill in health monitoring forms to assess health effects before and after switch on.</p>
<p>Early indications were that something like 50% of people reported worse health after switch on (usually described a &#8216;feeling unwell&#8217; rather that anything specific or serious)</p>
<p>A few weeks after switch on the research had to be terminated as we had notification that we were being sued. Apparently our transmitters were causing one person to summer from insomnia, dizziness, chronic fatigue etc etc and we were being sued as he was so ill that he was unable to go to work.  The research was terminated because we had to come clean and tell the lawyers that we hadn&#8217;t actually switched the transmitter on at all.  </p>
<p>We were doing the exercise to prove just how gullible and suggestive people were. We proved that if you hint that something may cause illness, half the population will feel ill and a few will feel really ill (or think they do).</p>
<p>This should not be a big surprise.  If you suggest that X-Factor is good entertainment then half the population will watch it!</p>
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		By: Jay Markowitz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Markowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Forget technology - 

The most powerful EMP producer is our Sun.

Suggesting Firstenberg should go someplace where the sun don&#039;t shine? (and bring his lawyer)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget technology &#8211; </p>
<p>The most powerful EMP producer is our Sun.</p>
<p>Suggesting Firstenberg should go someplace where the sun don&#8217;t shine? (and bring his lawyer)</p>
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		By: Aria		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Benjamin, the neighbor shouldn&#039;t have to lie and go along with this guy&#039;s claim to an allergy that, curiously, doesn&#039;t seem to be effected by the wi-fi and phone signals of other neighbors.

I&#039;d bet that this guy is afraid of new technology, so whatever he is feeling is a psychosomatic reaction to his own fear.  I&#039;d like to see this guy sit in a room carefully controlled so that there are no wayward wi-fi signals around, and then to hit a buzzer or something every time someone in the room next to him turns on a cell phone or boots up a computer with built-in wi-fi technology.  Neither needs a receiving end to be emitting signals.  This control test would should if he really is picking up on wi-fi signals.  $10 on &quot;he can&#039;t.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin, the neighbor shouldn&#8217;t have to lie and go along with this guy&#8217;s claim to an allergy that, curiously, doesn&#8217;t seem to be effected by the wi-fi and phone signals of other neighbors.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bet that this guy is afraid of new technology, so whatever he is feeling is a psychosomatic reaction to his own fear.  I&#8217;d like to see this guy sit in a room carefully controlled so that there are no wayward wi-fi signals around, and then to hit a buzzer or something every time someone in the room next to him turns on a cell phone or boots up a computer with built-in wi-fi technology.  Neither needs a receiving end to be emitting signals.  This control test would should if he really is picking up on wi-fi signals.  $10 on &#8220;he can&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
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