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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s outrageous that this school thinks it&#039;s OK to steal. And they&#039;re teaching their students that it&#039;s OK to steal.

What made them think it would be proper to take someone&#039;s obvious trademark? They&#039;re lucky Chrysler didn&#039;t ask for damages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s outrageous that this school thinks it&#8217;s OK to steal. And they&#8217;re teaching their students that it&#8217;s OK to steal.</p>
<p>What made them think it would be proper to take someone&#8217;s obvious trademark? They&#8217;re lucky Chrysler didn&#8217;t ask for damages.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Could you cite to some source on this story gitarcarver? I just don’t recall it at all.&lt;/i&gt;

Sure.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sportsbybrooks.com/mlb-says-they-even-own-the-team-names-17937&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
MLB Tells Little League Not To Use Team Names&lt;/a&gt;

The MLBPA originally supported the position as each player in the league made $80,000 from licensing fees.   (More popular players made more of course because of their names being attached to jerseys.)

Note: I had more sources, but the site here (understandbly) doesn&#039;t like a whole lot of urls.  

&lt;i&gt;AFAIK, MLB is more popular with youth today than it has been in 30 years.&lt;/i&gt;

I can only tell you what I know and see in my area.  I don&#039;t know of a single youth baseball / softball league that has not downsized.  As an example, when I moved to my present home 15 years ago, the 10 - 12 age group had 6 teams and 12 &quot;supporting&quot; or &quot;minors&quot; teams.  The town next to mine had 8 teams in the age group but no &quot;minors&quot; program.  

Two years ago the two leagues combined and now field a total of 6 teams in that age group.

The leagues that I used to officiate and still help out once in awhile are all down.  

The reasons seem to be many.  First seems to be that baseball is one of the harder sports.  Arguably it is the most difficult to play.  To practice, you need a team or for the most part, one or two other players.  Sports like soccer, lacrosse, basketball, etc that don&#039;t require as much skill to play at a basic level are more appealing to today&#039;s &quot;my little baby is a superstar&quot; mentality.  I also believe that video games have hurt team sports as well.  Growing up, I could ride my bike to the park and see lots of pick up games going on.  Now, I never see any.  

I know that MLB is worried about the sport in the inner cities, and have their &quot;RBI&quot; program (Restoring Baseball in the Inner city) going as much as they can.  

I see a decline but that doesn&#039;t mean that there is a decline.  It is only what I see, and  other officials that I have talked to across the country see the same thing.  

Now if you want definite proof that the &quot;hands are not part of the bat,&quot; I can give you that.  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Could you cite to some source on this story gitarcarver? I just don’t recall it at all.</i></p>
<p>Sure.</p>
<p><a href="http://sportsbybrooks.com/mlb-says-they-even-own-the-team-names-17937" rel="nofollow"><br />
MLB Tells Little League Not To Use Team Names</a></p>
<p>The MLBPA originally supported the position as each player in the league made $80,000 from licensing fees.   (More popular players made more of course because of their names being attached to jerseys.)</p>
<p>Note: I had more sources, but the site here (understandbly) doesn&#8217;t like a whole lot of urls.  </p>
<p><i>AFAIK, MLB is more popular with youth today than it has been in 30 years.</i></p>
<p>I can only tell you what I know and see in my area.  I don&#8217;t know of a single youth baseball / softball league that has not downsized.  As an example, when I moved to my present home 15 years ago, the 10 &#8211; 12 age group had 6 teams and 12 &#8220;supporting&#8221; or &#8220;minors&#8221; teams.  The town next to mine had 8 teams in the age group but no &#8220;minors&#8221; program.  </p>
<p>Two years ago the two leagues combined and now field a total of 6 teams in that age group.</p>
<p>The leagues that I used to officiate and still help out once in awhile are all down.  </p>
<p>The reasons seem to be many.  First seems to be that baseball is one of the harder sports.  Arguably it is the most difficult to play.  To practice, you need a team or for the most part, one or two other players.  Sports like soccer, lacrosse, basketball, etc that don&#8217;t require as much skill to play at a basic level are more appealing to today&#8217;s &#8220;my little baby is a superstar&#8221; mentality.  I also believe that video games have hurt team sports as well.  Growing up, I could ride my bike to the park and see lots of pick up games going on.  Now, I never see any.  </p>
<p>I know that MLB is worried about the sport in the inner cities, and have their &#8220;RBI&#8221; program (Restoring Baseball in the Inner city) going as much as they can.  </p>
<p>I see a decline but that doesn&#8217;t mean that there is a decline.  It is only what I see, and  other officials that I have talked to across the country see the same thing.  </p>
<p>Now if you want definite proof that the &#8220;hands are not part of the bat,&#8221; I can give you that.  😉</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My opinion on the logo issue is why would the school want to be associated with a  corporate identity?  I certainly do not want my school tax dollars going to 
pay some corporation so my kids can walk around advertising their product.

Nor would I consider accepting money so that children could proudly where their MLK/VISA High School team jackets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion on the logo issue is why would the school want to be associated with a  corporate identity?  I certainly do not want my school tax dollars going to<br />
pay some corporation so my kids can walk around advertising their product.</p>
<p>Nor would I consider accepting money so that children could proudly where their MLK/VISA High School team jackets.</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Could you cite to some source on this story gitarcarver?  I just don&#039;t recall it at all.

AFAIK, MLB is more popular with youth today than it has been in 30 years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you cite to some source on this story gitarcarver?  I just don&#8217;t recall it at all.</p>
<p>AFAIK, MLB is more popular with youth today than it has been in 30 years.</p>
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		By: High school agrees to halt Chrysler Rams logo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[High school agrees to halt Chrysler Rams logo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Mary High School concedes it has no legal grounds on which to resist Chrysler&#8217;s request. Contrary to many readers&#8217; suggestions, the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Mary High School concedes it has no legal grounds on which to resist Chrysler&#8217;s request. Contrary to many readers&#8217; suggestions, the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of MLB several years ago demanding a licensing fee for the use of team names for Little League teams.  

Instead of paying a fee to MLB, the leagues just changed the names of the teams.  Teams were no longer the &quot;Tigers,&quot; but the &quot;Dragons&quot; or something like that.

MLB didn&#039;t get any more money for their players from licensing the name to the youth leagues.  The other effect was that kids stopped following their &quot;team&quot; at the MLB level.  MLB killed a lot of interest and following by demanding more money for something that helped their product.   

It was a stupid move.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of MLB several years ago demanding a licensing fee for the use of team names for Little League teams.  </p>
<p>Instead of paying a fee to MLB, the leagues just changed the names of the teams.  Teams were no longer the &#8220;Tigers,&#8221; but the &#8220;Dragons&#8221; or something like that.</p>
<p>MLB didn&#8217;t get any more money for their players from licensing the name to the youth leagues.  The other effect was that kids stopped following their &#8220;team&#8221; at the MLB level.  MLB killed a lot of interest and following by demanding more money for something that helped their product.   </p>
<p>It was a stupid move.</p>
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		By: Todd Rogers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Rogers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;I thought Chrysler was in the business of selling cars.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Call me snarky.  Chrysler is a union life-support system business - a mere host.  That&#039;s off-topic I suppose.   Another MFR (perhaps Toyota) should pounce on this once-in-a-lifetime PR opportunity.  After all, it&#039;s for the kids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I thought Chrysler was in the business of selling cars.&#8221;</i><br />
Call me snarky.  Chrysler is a union life-support system business &#8211; a mere host.  That&#8217;s off-topic I suppose.   Another MFR (perhaps Toyota) should pounce on this once-in-a-lifetime PR opportunity.  After all, it&#8217;s for the kids.</p>
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		By: nevins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nevins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But why piss off your future customers? I thought Chrysler was in the business of selling cars.&quot;
http://blogs.motortrend.com/6425400/car-news/the-biggest-loser-chrysler-sales-fall-53-percent-for-month-30-percent-for-year/index.html
Not so much as of late.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why piss off your future customers? I thought Chrysler was in the business of selling cars.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://blogs.motortrend.com/6425400/car-news/the-biggest-loser-chrysler-sales-fall-53-percent-for-month-30-percent-for-year/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.motortrend.com/6425400/car-news/the-biggest-loser-chrysler-sales-fall-53-percent-for-month-30-percent-for-year/index.html</a><br />
Not so much as of late.</p>
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		By: PeterK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeterK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[in all likelihood Walter Chrysler would have licensed it for nothing.  Same thing with the model companies Revell, Monogram. Car companies in the past didn&#039;t do licensing with those companies they eagerly shared the details with the companies, but about 20 years ago the legal eagles started shoving licensing agreements at them]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in all likelihood Walter Chrysler would have licensed it for nothing.  Same thing with the model companies Revell, Monogram. Car companies in the past didn&#8217;t do licensing with those companies they eagerly shared the details with the companies, but about 20 years ago the legal eagles started shoving licensing agreements at them</p>
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		By: Chrysler vs. Lake Mary High &#171; The Legal Satyricon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chrysler vs. Lake Mary High &#171; The Legal Satyricon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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