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	Comments on: &#8220;Birther-In-Chief Orly Taitz Loses Again&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Anthony J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony J]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Richard I have no idea. But I will say the MSM as you put it should not give any credence to any of this far leaning stupidity rather it be on the far left or far right.  There is so much haterd in this country. People may not agree with his positions but to constantly call him a communist or a socialist is uttery ridiculous and juvenile.  The Rush Lambaughs, Sean Hannitys, &#038; Glen Becks care only about many listeners they have. If they are so much for America and the people why have they never run for any office. Get from behind the microphone and put your money where your mouth is!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Richard I have no idea. But I will say the MSM as you put it should not give any credence to any of this far leaning stupidity rather it be on the far left or far right.  There is so much haterd in this country. People may not agree with his positions but to constantly call him a communist or a socialist is uttery ridiculous and juvenile.  The Rush Lambaughs, Sean Hannitys, &amp; Glen Becks care only about many listeners they have. If they are so much for America and the people why have they never run for any office. Get from behind the microphone and put your money where your mouth is!!!!!</p>
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		By: Richard Nieporent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Nieporent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anthony J, you are right; however, this is mild compared to the 9/11 inside job conspiracy folks where they accuse the government to be complicit in the murder of almost 3K people. I find it interesting that the MSM did not make a big deal about the craziness of those folks. In fact, at times they gave sympathetic treatment to their bizarre theories. Could it be because they were on the left of the political spectrum?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony J, you are right; however, this is mild compared to the 9/11 inside job conspiracy folks where they accuse the government to be complicit in the murder of almost 3K people. I find it interesting that the MSM did not make a big deal about the craziness of those folks. In fact, at times they gave sympathetic treatment to their bizarre theories. Could it be because they were on the left of the political spectrum?</p>
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		By: Anthony J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For all of you birthers to really believe this foolishness you would have to believe that the whole country was in on it. That includes the rebublican party , the FBI, the Secret Service, &#038; the Immigration &#038; Naturalization Service are all in the plot to have him elected. If that is what you believe what does that say about your republican leaders especially Sarah Palin? The whole birther movement you&#039;re making yourselves look so very stupid &#038; uneducated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all of you birthers to really believe this foolishness you would have to believe that the whole country was in on it. That includes the rebublican party , the FBI, the Secret Service, &amp; the Immigration &amp; Naturalization Service are all in the plot to have him elected. If that is what you believe what does that say about your republican leaders especially Sarah Palin? The whole birther movement you&#8217;re making yourselves look so very stupid &amp; uneducated.</p>
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		By: Sara B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 03:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snopes is also known to be left-leaning (not just on this issue, several).  Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snopes is also known to be left-leaning (not just on this issue, several).  Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Jack Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snopes is throwing a red herring - birthers aren&#039;t claiming that the COLB is a forgery; they are claiming it is a meaningless document when used to prove natural citizenship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snopes is throwing a red herring &#8211; birthers aren&#8217;t claiming that the COLB is a forgery; they are claiming it is a meaningless document when used to prove natural citizenship.</p>
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		By: Dirk D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dirk D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;This says the parent(s) simply have to have lived in the US for a period of time which Obama’s mother and both of McCain’s parents certainly all did, in order to acquire citizenship at birth&quot;

No, they didn&#039;t. Under the statute, Obama&#039;s mother had to have lived in the US for at least five years after the age of 14. She gave birth to him before her 19th birthday. Also, this statute doesn&#039;t apply to McCain, because McCain was born in 1936.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This says the parent(s) simply have to have lived in the US for a period of time which Obama’s mother and both of McCain’s parents certainly all did, in order to acquire citizenship at birth&#8221;</p>
<p>No, they didn&#8217;t. Under the statute, Obama&#8217;s mother had to have lived in the US for at least five years after the age of 14. She gave birth to him before her 19th birthday. Also, this statute doesn&#8217;t apply to McCain, because McCain was born in 1936.</p>
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		By: Bill Poser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Poser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
If there is some requirement other than acquiring citizenship at birth in order to be a “natural born citizen,” please enlighten me.
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There may be. Whether &quot;natural born citizen&quot; means &quot;entitled to US citizenship from birth&quot; or is to be construed more narrowly as requiring birth on US soil is a long-standing unsettled issue. It arose, but did not ripen, when George Romney ran for President in 1968 since he was born in Mexico to US citizen parents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
If there is some requirement other than acquiring citizenship at birth in order to be a “natural born citizen,” please enlighten me.
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<p>There may be. Whether &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; means &#8220;entitled to US citizenship from birth&#8221; or is to be construed more narrowly as requiring birth on US soil is a long-standing unsettled issue. It arose, but did not ripen, when George Romney ran for President in 1968 since he was born in Mexico to US citizen parents.</p>
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		By: Stewart Peterson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stewart Peterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 04:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is incorrect.&quot;

Of course it is; read the third paragraph of my second comment. I&#039;m just saying I understand the argument and intend to address it, not that I agree with it.

BTW, what statute are you reading? &lt;a href=&quot;http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; says the parent(s) simply have to have lived in the US for a period of time which Obama&#039;s mother and both of McCain&#039;s parents certainly all did, in order to acquire citizenship at birth. If there is some requirement other than acquiring citizenship at birth in order to be a &quot;natural born citizen,&quot; please enlighten me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is incorrect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course it is; read the third paragraph of my second comment. I&#8217;m just saying I understand the argument and intend to address it, not that I agree with it.</p>
<p>BTW, what statute are you reading? <a href="http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html" rel="nofollow">This</a> says the parent(s) simply have to have lived in the US for a period of time which Obama&#8217;s mother and both of McCain&#8217;s parents certainly all did, in order to acquire citizenship at birth. If there is some requirement other than acquiring citizenship at birth in order to be a &#8220;natural born citizen,&#8221; please enlighten me.</p>
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		By: Dirk D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dirk D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I understand the argument that “natural-born citizen” means you have to be born *in* the United States&quot;

This is incorrect. Being born in the US automatically qualifies you as a &quot;natural born citizen,&quot; regardless of parental citizenship.  But one need not be born &quot;in&quot; the US to be a natural born citizen. Today, and at the time Obama was born, a child born to two US citizens abroad was a natural born citizen, but not a child born abroad to one US citizen and an alien (as defined by statute, no clue what originalist say about this situ). At the time McCain was born the statute didn&#039;t include children of two US citizens born abroad, but  that doesn&#039;t necessarily matter as original meaning of the term may have included that population of children as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I understand the argument that “natural-born citizen” means you have to be born *in* the United States&#8221;</p>
<p>This is incorrect. Being born in the US automatically qualifies you as a &#8220;natural born citizen,&#8221; regardless of parental citizenship.  But one need not be born &#8220;in&#8221; the US to be a natural born citizen. Today, and at the time Obama was born, a child born to two US citizens abroad was a natural born citizen, but not a child born abroad to one US citizen and an alien (as defined by statute, no clue what originalist say about this situ). At the time McCain was born the statute didn&#8217;t include children of two US citizens born abroad, but  that doesn&#8217;t necessarily matter as original meaning of the term may have included that population of children as well.</p>
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		By: Richard Nieporent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Nieporent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I could understand why someone would make this argument before the election. However, what is the purpose of continuing it after the election? Do you really believe that the Supreme Court will declare that the election of Obama was null and void? If so, then you are really living in a fantasy land.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could understand why someone would make this argument before the election. However, what is the purpose of continuing it after the election? Do you really believe that the Supreme Court will declare that the election of Obama was null and void? If so, then you are really living in a fantasy land.</p>
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