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		By: Jack Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On this blog, dedicated to legal issues,  I would expect the discussion to center around the constitutionality of federal decrees as opposed to tales of woe involving parking.

I wasn&#039;t aware that constitutionality is based on the ability to produce a tale of woe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this blog, dedicated to legal issues,  I would expect the discussion to center around the constitutionality of federal decrees as opposed to tales of woe involving parking.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that constitutionality is based on the ability to produce a tale of woe.</p>
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		By: Paul Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry Mr Nuesslein but if you get out some, not all businesses are like your local bank.  and yes there is a big difference between a baby stroller and a wheelchair.  I have never seen a baby stroller with an attached ventilator, oxygen tank, back up 12v battery just like you have in your car, a suction machine, and roughly 3 duffle bags full of emergency medical equipment.  Roughly 150lbs of equipment to move my 30 lb boy.  Sorry that you think these parking spaces are a waste.   PS: I&#039;m glad your bank has such convienent parking. 

Some of the other comments about people not looking handicap&#039;s using the spaces.  You have to have a doc slip to get a permit.  please give these people the benefit of doubt.  Sure there are abusers but most are not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Mr Nuesslein but if you get out some, not all businesses are like your local bank.  and yes there is a big difference between a baby stroller and a wheelchair.  I have never seen a baby stroller with an attached ventilator, oxygen tank, back up 12v battery just like you have in your car, a suction machine, and roughly 3 duffle bags full of emergency medical equipment.  Roughly 150lbs of equipment to move my 30 lb boy.  Sorry that you think these parking spaces are a waste.   PS: I&#8217;m glad your bank has such convienent parking. </p>
<p>Some of the other comments about people not looking handicap&#8217;s using the spaces.  You have to have a doc slip to get a permit.  please give these people the benefit of doubt.  Sure there are abusers but most are not.</p>
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		By: Ron Miller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just so we are clear, saying something is unconstitutional does not make it so.    No one is meaningful suggesting this.

Yes, handicapped spaces are often vacant.  That&#039;s the point, so there is a space to park.  

The cost of this is small, we are talking about paving a few spaces.  An expense to be sure but relative to the obligation required by other regulatory obligations, small.  The cost to the outraged commenters?   They walk about 20 feet.  

People park where they should not park.  It is very annoying.  But people are taking advantage of the system in so many different ways.  It has been happening virtually since the beginning of systems themselves.    It is what it is.  There is no sense it getting too worked up about it and, as some pointed out, you might not understand the full context of why that person is parking where they are.

I agree with everything Paul Brown says.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so we are clear, saying something is unconstitutional does not make it so.    No one is meaningful suggesting this.</p>
<p>Yes, handicapped spaces are often vacant.  That&#8217;s the point, so there is a space to park.  </p>
<p>The cost of this is small, we are talking about paving a few spaces.  An expense to be sure but relative to the obligation required by other regulatory obligations, small.  The cost to the outraged commenters?   They walk about 20 feet.  </p>
<p>People park where they should not park.  It is very annoying.  But people are taking advantage of the system in so many different ways.  It has been happening virtually since the beginning of systems themselves.    It is what it is.  There is no sense it getting too worked up about it and, as some pointed out, you might not understand the full context of why that person is parking where they are.</p>
<p>I agree with everything Paul Brown says.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Just like Benjamin observed, I’ve seen a LOT of people using placards who shouldn’t have them. &lt;/i&gt;

What you observe may have nothing to do with having a handicapped licensed or placard.   Not only are there a lot of injuries and obstacles that you cannot see, but at least here in Florida, the law allows me, a (relatively) healthy person to park in a handicapped spot if I am on an errand for a person who does have a disability.  

So if I am on my way to Olive Garden to pick up some food for my handicapped, elderly neighbor has ordered, I can park in the handicapped spot.  

I don&#039;t.

But I can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Just like Benjamin observed, I’ve seen a LOT of people using placards who shouldn’t have them. </i></p>
<p>What you observe may have nothing to do with having a handicapped licensed or placard.   Not only are there a lot of injuries and obstacles that you cannot see, but at least here in Florida, the law allows me, a (relatively) healthy person to park in a handicapped spot if I am on an errand for a person who does have a disability.  </p>
<p>So if I am on my way to Olive Garden to pick up some food for my handicapped, elderly neighbor has ordered, I can park in the handicapped spot.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But I can.</p>
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		By: Jack Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mind if a business dedicates certain spaces on its own property to certain classes of people, but handicapped parking dictated by ADA is unconstitutional because ADA is unconstitutional.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind if a business dedicates certain spaces on its own property to certain classes of people, but handicapped parking dictated by ADA is unconstitutional because ADA is unconstitutional.</p>
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		By: David Schwartz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Schwartz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My brother has a serious disability that severely limits the distance he can walk. Other people see him parking in handicapped spaces with no obvious physical disability and he has even had a few very unpleasant confrontations. He looks young and healthy. But you can&#039;t tell if someone has multiple sclerosis, a heart condition, or any number of other problems. Not everyone who has physical limitations  is elderly or has an obvious disability.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother has a serious disability that severely limits the distance he can walk. Other people see him parking in handicapped spaces with no obvious physical disability and he has even had a few very unpleasant confrontations. He looks young and healthy. But you can&#8217;t tell if someone has multiple sclerosis, a heart condition, or any number of other problems. Not everyone who has physical limitations  is elderly or has an obvious disability.</p>
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		By: William Nuesslein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Nuesslein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder how much handicapped parking actually helps Mr. Brown. For small businesses, like my local bank, the furthest parking space is close to the door so the special space saves very little distance. And why would a wheelchair be that much different from a baby stroller?

I did not claim that ramps and special parking spaces were never used. There are not enough people in Mr. Brown&#039;s position to justify the billions of dollars in cost. I do wish Mr. Brown and his child the very best. 

My brother-in-law&#039;s daughter was mowed down by a crazy guy and is incapacitated with spinal injury.  She can&#039;t leave her nursing home at all. I would rather see the money that is spent of ramps and parking spaces diverted to medical research on spinal cord injuries.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/one_year_later_hit-and-run_victim_holds_out_hope2007-09-04T10_00_00.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much handicapped parking actually helps Mr. Brown. For small businesses, like my local bank, the furthest parking space is close to the door so the special space saves very little distance. And why would a wheelchair be that much different from a baby stroller?</p>
<p>I did not claim that ramps and special parking spaces were never used. There are not enough people in Mr. Brown&#8217;s position to justify the billions of dollars in cost. I do wish Mr. Brown and his child the very best. </p>
<p>My brother-in-law&#8217;s daughter was mowed down by a crazy guy and is incapacitated with spinal injury.  She can&#8217;t leave her nursing home at all. I would rather see the money that is spent of ramps and parking spaces diverted to medical research on spinal cord injuries.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/one_year_later_hit-and-run_victim_holds_out_hope2007-09-04T10_00_00.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/one_year_later_hit-and-run_victim_holds_out_hope2007-09-04T10_00_00.html</a></p>
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		By: Ps		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If one were, say, an alcoholic or suffer from ADD, would that entitle them to use the space? Just wondering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one were, say, an alcoholic or suffer from ADD, would that entitle them to use the space? Just wondering.</p>
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		By: Keith D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a person who has trouble walking, I will use a handicapped spot if there&#039;s no place reasonably close to park AND I&#039;m the one driving.  If I&#039;m being driven, my friends drop me at the door and park.

Just like Benjamin observed, I&#039;ve seen a LOT of people using placards who shouldn&#039;t have them. One day I sat in front of Olive Garden and counted no less than 18 cars parking in the 6 handicapped slots and only three of them were people who were elderly or had an obvious disability.  All the others walked/moved as if they were perfectly healthy.  Too bad the OPPD won&#039;t do anything about people who pull that crap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person who has trouble walking, I will use a handicapped spot if there&#8217;s no place reasonably close to park AND I&#8217;m the one driving.  If I&#8217;m being driven, my friends drop me at the door and park.</p>
<p>Just like Benjamin observed, I&#8217;ve seen a LOT of people using placards who shouldn&#8217;t have them. One day I sat in front of Olive Garden and counted no less than 18 cars parking in the 6 handicapped slots and only three of them were people who were elderly or had an obvious disability.  All the others walked/moved as if they were perfectly healthy.  Too bad the OPPD won&#8217;t do anything about people who pull that crap.</p>
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		By: Jay Markowitz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Markowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Burgess on this one. 

The lady states &quot;At the time I was still in a full sling, I was still on medication...&quot;

So, she&#039;s got one arm and high on goofballs, driving in a torrential downpour.

Moron.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Burgess on this one. </p>
<p>The lady states &#8220;At the time I was still in a full sling, I was still on medication&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So, she&#8217;s got one arm and high on goofballs, driving in a torrential downpour.</p>
<p>Moron.</p>
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