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	Comments on: The high (copyright) cost of &#8220;Glee&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Steven Jones		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If this show had been made in the 80&#039;s it probably would not be released on DVD.  In fact, a similar show, called &#039;Kids Incorporated&#039;, actually WAS made in the 80&#039;s and early 90&#039;s but will not see the light of day on DVD for reasons of copyright.  
The rights to the show itself are split between three different companies, plus there are performance rights to the music that would need to be sorted out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this show had been made in the 80&#8217;s it probably would not be released on DVD.  In fact, a similar show, called &#8216;Kids Incorporated&#8217;, actually WAS made in the 80&#8217;s and early 90&#8217;s but will not see the light of day on DVD for reasons of copyright.<br />
The rights to the show itself are split between three different companies, plus there are performance rights to the music that would need to be sorted out.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;But how do you expect anyone to make a living writing worship music? &lt;/i&gt;

Many churches hold the idea that it is wrong to charge what God has given a person.  We can debate the merits of that all day, but there is a school of thought that says when a person writes a worship song that they claim was inspired by God, they don&#039;t have a right to charge for it&#039;s use.  

The odd thing is that I have never met a song writer, or artist who has ever cared about this.  My church puts out praise and worship albums as well as albums for groups and individuals.  We have never had an artist not allow the use of a song on a CD, nor have they ever asked for royalties from it.  (Our artists do the same thing - if someone wants to use a song they wrote on an album, they have the artist&#039;s permission.)

It is usually the record company that raises the stink - not the artist.  Of course, it can be said that the record company does not have the same interest as the artist, but that is another discussion.  

I have seen the agreement, but not read it, that our church has to cover &quot;praise and worship&quot; songs as well as &quot;cover&quot; versions of songs used in services.  It is a general agreement that covers the use of the songs in a specific venue.  It is similar to the same agreements bars and nightclubs have for live music.  The bar pays a fee and the bands can do cover songs of other people&#039;s works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But how do you expect anyone to make a living writing worship music? </i></p>
<p>Many churches hold the idea that it is wrong to charge what God has given a person.  We can debate the merits of that all day, but there is a school of thought that says when a person writes a worship song that they claim was inspired by God, they don&#8217;t have a right to charge for it&#8217;s use.  </p>
<p>The odd thing is that I have never met a song writer, or artist who has ever cared about this.  My church puts out praise and worship albums as well as albums for groups and individuals.  We have never had an artist not allow the use of a song on a CD, nor have they ever asked for royalties from it.  (Our artists do the same thing &#8211; if someone wants to use a song they wrote on an album, they have the artist&#8217;s permission.)</p>
<p>It is usually the record company that raises the stink &#8211; not the artist.  Of course, it can be said that the record company does not have the same interest as the artist, but that is another discussion.  </p>
<p>I have seen the agreement, but not read it, that our church has to cover &#8220;praise and worship&#8221; songs as well as &#8220;cover&#8221; versions of songs used in services.  It is a general agreement that covers the use of the songs in a specific venue.  It is similar to the same agreements bars and nightclubs have for live music.  The bar pays a fee and the bands can do cover songs of other people&#8217;s works.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Chr-s! :-)

Anyway, there are a lot of people who write choral arrangements for schools, etc. It would be unfair to have a &quot;school exemption&quot; because it would simply put them out of business....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Chr-s! 🙂</p>
<p>Anyway, there are a lot of people who write choral arrangements for schools, etc. It would be unfair to have a &#8220;school exemption&#8221; because it would simply put them out of business&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Dirk D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dirk D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But how do you expect anyone to make a living writing worship music?&quot;

Same way they did before the modern expansion of the performance right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But how do you expect anyone to make a living writing worship music?&#8221;</p>
<p>Same way they did before the modern expansion of the performance right.</p>
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		By: kimsch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kimsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When we have a movie night at school we have to purchase a license to show it. $75 a license that is good for that one movie on that one day. This applies whether it&#039;s a movie being shown to one class or the whole school Outdoor showings are prohibited. We also have a choice to purchase a one year, any movies, any dates license for between $400-$500...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we have a movie night at school we have to purchase a license to show it. $75 a license that is good for that one movie on that one day. This applies whether it&#8217;s a movie being shown to one class or the whole school Outdoor showings are prohibited. We also have a choice to purchase a one year, any movies, any dates license for between $400-$500&#8230;</p>
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		By: Benjamin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;People who write music for worship services, for example, have a hard time getting paid.&quot;

I blame Powerpoint.  Before you had to buy a Hymn book for each seat in the auditorium.   The cost of the song was built into the song book.  Now songs can be typed up from memory and beamed onto a screen without paying.

I am assuming the people who do special music also buy sheet music and perform from that, but I could be wrong.  All the sheet music I&#039;ve ever seen had ASCAP stuff on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People who write music for worship services, for example, have a hard time getting paid.&#8221;</p>
<p>I blame Powerpoint.  Before you had to buy a Hymn book for each seat in the auditorium.   The cost of the song was built into the song book.  Now songs can be typed up from memory and beamed onto a screen without paying.</p>
<p>I am assuming the people who do special music also buy sheet music and perform from that, but I could be wrong.  All the sheet music I&#8217;ve ever seen had ASCAP stuff on it.</p>
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		By: Benjamin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris, Jews leave out the vowels when they write a name of G_d.   G_d&#039;s name is too holy to write.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, Jews leave out the vowels when they write a name of G_d.   G_d&#8217;s name is too holy to write.</p>
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		By: Tom T.		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2010/06/the-high-copyright-cost-of-glee/comment-page-1/#comment-92063</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Schools have to pay for the textbooks and software their students use, right?  I&#039;m willing to be persuaded that the rules for copyrighted music should be different, but I don&#039;t intuitively see why that should be the case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schools have to pay for the textbooks and software their students use, right?  I&#8217;m willing to be persuaded that the rules for copyrighted music should be different, but I don&#8217;t intuitively see why that should be the case.</p>
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		By: Aaron Worthing		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Worthing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you know, i think we should strongly consider a &quot;school performance&quot; exception to all of these copyright laws.  i mean literally make it that.  if you are in k-12, you can perform it live before your school, so long as you aren&#039;t like recording it and distributing it.

That, and we can pass laws allowing the copyright holders to let a few things like this slide without endangering their property.  that is part of the problem, too.  IP holders are almost legally required to act like jerks to protect their property, because if they let a school perform a given song, next thing you know, a cover band can take it without permission.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, i think we should strongly consider a &#8220;school performance&#8221; exception to all of these copyright laws.  i mean literally make it that.  if you are in k-12, you can perform it live before your school, so long as you aren&#8217;t like recording it and distributing it.</p>
<p>That, and we can pass laws allowing the copyright holders to let a few things like this slide without endangering their property.  that is part of the problem, too.  IP holders are almost legally required to act like jerks to protect their property, because if they let a school perform a given song, next thing you know, a cover band can take it without permission.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You left out the &quot;i&quot; in Christian, Robert.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You left out the &#8220;i&#8221; in Christian, Robert.</p>
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