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	Comments on: Camera said to capture $12.8 M winner&#8217;s &#8220;victory dance&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Anonymous Attorney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Attorney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I defended worker&#039;s comp cases in Virginia.  We&#039;d often have video of claimants doing work outside, loading and unloading cars, etc.  (I&#039;ve even heard of occasions where insurance company investigators would film them doing drug deals!)

In any event, you&#039;d be suprised at how unmoved the deputy commissioners were by these videos. 

The truth is that the No. 1 factor driving whether a person works or not is WILL.  You could have a man lose a few fingers and be back in several days, or a man who wanted to milk the system turn a back strain into a life-long injury.

Most state worker&#039;s comp systems are pretty liberal, and take the claimant at his word when he says &quot;I just can&#039;t do it.&quot;  It fits my general theory that the trough expands to fit the number of pigs in the barnyard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I defended worker&#8217;s comp cases in Virginia.  We&#8217;d often have video of claimants doing work outside, loading and unloading cars, etc.  (I&#8217;ve even heard of occasions where insurance company investigators would film them doing drug deals!)</p>
<p>In any event, you&#8217;d be suprised at how unmoved the deputy commissioners were by these videos. </p>
<p>The truth is that the No. 1 factor driving whether a person works or not is WILL.  You could have a man lose a few fingers and be back in several days, or a man who wanted to milk the system turn a back strain into a life-long injury.</p>
<p>Most state worker&#8217;s comp systems are pretty liberal, and take the claimant at his word when he says &#8220;I just can&#8217;t do it.&#8221;  It fits my general theory that the trough expands to fit the number of pigs in the barnyard.</p>
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		By: William Nuesslein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Nuesslein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The couple of times when I had back pain, and almost every guy has back pain at some time, I could not swivel my hips as the fellow did in the video.

The $12.8 should have been contingent on the amount of 24 hour care that was provided. At a minimum, the doctor who said the fellow needed the 12 hour care should have 24 years of prison time, along with the witless judge and jury!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The couple of times when I had back pain, and almost every guy has back pain at some time, I could not swivel my hips as the fellow did in the video.</p>
<p>The $12.8 should have been contingent on the amount of 24 hour care that was provided. At a minimum, the doctor who said the fellow needed the 12 hour care should have 24 years of prison time, along with the witless judge and jury!</p>
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		By: Leafs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leafs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will agree with William on his statement &quot;Almost all testimony was self serving.&quot; In this case, I feel the same about the plantif testamony that shows a few select out takes. This was not like the guy nailed a few years ago playing full contact soccer while disabled. I am skeptical that the gentleman is as disabled as he claims, and I am skeptical about a few seconds of video insinuating he&#039;s a fraud. He did suffer serious injuries, but there are a lot of open questions about how disabled is he? He&#039;s definately not able to work as a firefighter, but could he work a desk job? How much care does he genuinely need? As Nevins points out, is his obesity a factor? What was his physical conditioning before the accident? As there is not enough information provided in the video or article, I can&#039;t make a logical decision about how disabled is he. Saying that, almost 13 mill for his injuries is excessive considering he is able to resume many activities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will agree with William on his statement &#8220;Almost all testimony was self serving.&#8221; In this case, I feel the same about the plantif testamony that shows a few select out takes. This was not like the guy nailed a few years ago playing full contact soccer while disabled. I am skeptical that the gentleman is as disabled as he claims, and I am skeptical about a few seconds of video insinuating he&#8217;s a fraud. He did suffer serious injuries, but there are a lot of open questions about how disabled is he? He&#8217;s definately not able to work as a firefighter, but could he work a desk job? How much care does he genuinely need? As Nevins points out, is his obesity a factor? What was his physical conditioning before the accident? As there is not enough information provided in the video or article, I can&#8217;t make a logical decision about how disabled is he. Saying that, almost 13 mill for his injuries is excessive considering he is able to resume many activities.</p>
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		By: William Nuesslein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Nuesslein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leafs&#039; comment above speaks of shades of gray. That is excessive open mindedness.

I watch many trials on court TV a few years back. Almost all testimony was self serving. Pumpkin Pie in the Phil Spector trial was particularly troubling as someone trying to gain from the murder of a friend.   

The heroic first responders manged to extort an unwarranted $700 settlement from the Federal Government for health problems from their work at 9/11&#039;s ground zero. The exposures were outdoors, where the air was constantly refreshed. Although there was a claim of a positive reading for toxins, none of the sensors reporting to the EPA had a positive reading of toxins in the air.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leafs&#8217; comment above speaks of shades of gray. That is excessive open mindedness.</p>
<p>I watch many trials on court TV a few years back. Almost all testimony was self serving. Pumpkin Pie in the Phil Spector trial was particularly troubling as someone trying to gain from the murder of a friend.   </p>
<p>The heroic first responders manged to extort an unwarranted $700 settlement from the Federal Government for health problems from their work at 9/11&#8217;s ground zero. The exposures were outdoors, where the air was constantly refreshed. Although there was a claim of a positive reading for toxins, none of the sensors reporting to the EPA had a positive reading of toxins in the air.</p>
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		By: nevins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Could be some of his apparent movement impairment is nothing more than morbid obesity.  With that gut he would likely not pass a firefighter&#039;s physical regardless of his alleged disabilities.  
I wonder what his physical condition was prior to his fall, and whether he was likely to end up &#039;disabled&#039; anyway as a result of his fatness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be some of his apparent movement impairment is nothing more than morbid obesity.  With that gut he would likely not pass a firefighter&#8217;s physical regardless of his alleged disabilities.<br />
I wonder what his physical condition was prior to his fall, and whether he was likely to end up &#8216;disabled&#8217; anyway as a result of his fatness.</p>
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		By: Leafs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leafs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I looked at the video and this appears to be a shade of grey. In the few edits, he talks about how he feels like an 80 year old man, and the article states he needs 24/7 care, but in the video, also just a few seconds, he doesn&#039;t appear to move normally, but he can move. If anything, most of the outrage is probably that the settlement is too high.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the video and this appears to be a shade of grey. In the few edits, he talks about how he feels like an 80 year old man, and the article states he needs 24/7 care, but in the video, also just a few seconds, he doesn&#8217;t appear to move normally, but he can move. If anything, most of the outrage is probably that the settlement is too high.</p>
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