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	Comments on: Litigation Lobby: president&#8217;s med-mal SOTU remarks &#8220;disgusting&#8221;	</title>
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		By: February 5 roundup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[February 5 roundup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] State of the Union medical malpractice gesture, cont&#8217;d [PoL, more, NJLRA, related, earlier here, here, here, here, here, here, here, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] State of the Union medical malpractice gesture, cont&#8217;d [PoL, more, NJLRA, related, earlier here, here, here, here, here, here, here, [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Bob Lipton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Lipton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not until we&#039;ve filled out the paperwork.

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not until we&#8217;ve filled out the paperwork.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		By: Bill Alexander		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Alexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;They will result in more Americans dying.&quot;

As far as I can tell, all Americans will die.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They will result in more Americans dying.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, all Americans will die.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe the &quot;disgusting&quot; comment can be found in the January 24, 2011 pres release from the CJ&#038;D found here:
http://www.centerjd.org/archives/press/2011/110125.php

The quote from the press release is, &lt;i&gt;These families are the forgotten faces in the debate over how to reduce health care costs, and it is disgusting that the President should be searching for ways to further harm these families. &lt;/i&gt;

To address Ron&#039;s point of the CJ&#038;D&#039;s comments not being &quot;harshly abrasive and shrill,&quot; (or over the top) there is another line in the press release which says, &lt;i&gt;The Republican ideas are severe and cruel. They guarantee that many injured patients will be shut out of court altogether. They will result in more Americans dying. And they will lead to deficit increases. The President should not be joining with Republicans in this unfair, brutal and misguided mission.&lt;/i&gt;

Personally, I can see that as being &quot;harshly abrasive and shrill,&quot; but opinions will vary.

There is an interesting article on the site trying to counter the claim that no doctor would ever order extra tests in the name of &quot;defensive medicine.&quot;  The article attacks anonymous doctor surveys that indicate that physicians do order such tests because the doctors are not named.  

The article then goes on to say that no doctor would ever order such tests because ordering &quot;defensive medicine&quot; tests is against the regulations of Medicaid and Medicare and no doctor would ever defraud the system.

(I apologize to those who read this while drinking a beverage and now have to clean up their keyboard from laughing.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the &#8220;disgusting&#8221; comment can be found in the January 24, 2011 pres release from the CJ&amp;D found here:<br />
<a href="http://www.centerjd.org/archives/press/2011/110125.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.centerjd.org/archives/press/2011/110125.php</a></p>
<p>The quote from the press release is, <i>These families are the forgotten faces in the debate over how to reduce health care costs, and it is disgusting that the President should be searching for ways to further harm these families. </i></p>
<p>To address Ron&#8217;s point of the CJ&amp;D&#8217;s comments not being &#8220;harshly abrasive and shrill,&#8221; (or over the top) there is another line in the press release which says, <i>The Republican ideas are severe and cruel. They guarantee that many injured patients will be shut out of court altogether. They will result in more Americans dying. And they will lead to deficit increases. The President should not be joining with Republicans in this unfair, brutal and misguided mission.</i></p>
<p>Personally, I can see that as being &#8220;harshly abrasive and shrill,&#8221; but opinions will vary.</p>
<p>There is an interesting article on the site trying to counter the claim that no doctor would ever order extra tests in the name of &#8220;defensive medicine.&#8221;  The article attacks anonymous doctor surveys that indicate that physicians do order such tests because the doctors are not named.  </p>
<p>The article then goes on to say that no doctor would ever order such tests because ordering &#8220;defensive medicine&#8221; tests is against the regulations of Medicaid and Medicare and no doctor would ever defraud the system.</p>
<p>(I apologize to those who read this while drinking a beverage and now have to clean up their keyboard from laughing.)</p>
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		By: Ron Miller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The President wants to end frivolous lawsuits lawsuits.   I agree.   I think it is important to note that the President did not say he wants to put caps or meritorious lawsuits where a plaintiff is seriously injured or killed.  He also did not say that he adopts all Republican proposal.  

I think your calling them &quot;harshly abrasive and shrill&quot; is over the top but I get your point about appealing to moderates.   I think the more moderated and reasoned the tone the better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The President wants to end frivolous lawsuits lawsuits.   I agree.   I think it is important to note that the President did not say he wants to put caps or meritorious lawsuits where a plaintiff is seriously injured or killed.  He also did not say that he adopts all Republican proposal.  </p>
<p>I think your calling them &#8220;harshly abrasive and shrill&#8221; is over the top but I get your point about appealing to moderates.   I think the more moderated and reasoned the tone the better.</p>
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