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	Comments on: Indiana: &#8220;No right to resist illegal cop entry into home&#8221;	</title>
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		By: asdfasdf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 09:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The preceding, semiliterate, 5/17 post by &quot;asdfasdf&quot; beginning &quot;Regardless&quot; was not written by me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The preceding, semiliterate, 5/17 post by &#8220;asdfasdf&#8221; beginning &#8220;Regardless&#8221; was not written by me.</p>
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		By: asdfasdf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 23:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regardless of this silly Indiana ruling, I would venture to say anyone trying to enter illegally may need some help to leave. Constitutional rights would override this incredibly arrogant ruling. I loose more respect for officials every time they open their mouths and see their brains fall out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of this silly Indiana ruling, I would venture to say anyone trying to enter illegally may need some help to leave. Constitutional rights would override this incredibly arrogant ruling. I loose more respect for officials every time they open their mouths and see their brains fall out.</p>
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		By: asdfasdf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 21:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(Ignore my last message, editing glitch, trying again)
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Mannie&quot;&gt;
I’d be a lot less upset about this if Citizens could successfully have police criminally prosecuted for criminal trespass.
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One of the many flaws in this very strange Indiana Supreme Court opinion is the assumption that there are viable civil remedies available post facto for the homeowner whose rights are violated. This is simply not the case as a matter of law or practice. As a matter of law, the ever-increasing ambit of qualified immunity sharply limits any possible recovery by the homeowner; and as a matter of practice, the costs of litigating would be prohibitive in most cases.

Even more remarkably, the Court claimed that the exclusionary rule provides protection to homeowners. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with modern exclusionary rule jurisprudence would know this is absurd. The exclusionary rule nowadays has little practical weight, its exceptions overwhelm its nominal force, and judges in practice rarely even apply it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Ignore my last message, editing glitch, trying again)</p>
<blockquote cite="Mannie"><p>
I’d be a lot less upset about this if Citizens could successfully have police criminally prosecuted for criminal trespass.
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<p>One of the many flaws in this very strange Indiana Supreme Court opinion is the assumption that there are viable civil remedies available post facto for the homeowner whose rights are violated. This is simply not the case as a matter of law or practice. As a matter of law, the ever-increasing ambit of qualified immunity sharply limits any possible recovery by the homeowner; and as a matter of practice, the costs of litigating would be prohibitive in most cases.</p>
<p>Even more remarkably, the Court claimed that the exclusionary rule provides protection to homeowners. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with modern exclusionary rule jurisprudence would know this is absurd. The exclusionary rule nowadays has little practical weight, its exceptions overwhelm its nominal force, and judges in practice rarely even apply it.</p>
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		By: asdfasdf		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2011/05/indiana-no-right-to-resist-illegal-cop-entry-into-home/comment-page-1/#comment-121187</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 21:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Mannie 05.15.11 at 1:36 pm
I’d be a lot less upset about this if Citizens could successfully have police criminally prosecuted for criminal trespass.
One of the many flaws in this very strange Indiana Supreme Court opinion is the assumption that there are viable civil remedies available post facto for the homeowner whose rights are violated. This is simply not the case as a matter of law or practice. As a matter of law, the ever-increasing ambit of qualified immunity sharply limits any possible recovery by the homeowner; and as a matter of practice, the costs of litigating would be prohibitive in most cases.

Even more remarkably, the Court claimed that the exclusionary rule provides protection to homeowners. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with modern exclusionary rule jurisprudence would know this is absurd. The exclusionary rule nowadays has little practical weight, its exceptions overwhelm its nominal force, and judges in practice rarely even apply it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mannie 05.15.11 at 1:36 pm<br />
I’d be a lot less upset about this if Citizens could successfully have police criminally prosecuted for criminal trespass.<br />
One of the many flaws in this very strange Indiana Supreme Court opinion is the assumption that there are viable civil remedies available post facto for the homeowner whose rights are violated. This is simply not the case as a matter of law or practice. As a matter of law, the ever-increasing ambit of qualified immunity sharply limits any possible recovery by the homeowner; and as a matter of practice, the costs of litigating would be prohibitive in most cases.</p>
<p>Even more remarkably, the Court claimed that the exclusionary rule provides protection to homeowners. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with modern exclusionary rule jurisprudence would know this is absurd. The exclusionary rule nowadays has little practical weight, its exceptions overwhelm its nominal force, and judges in practice rarely even apply it.</p></blockquote>
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		By: asdfasdf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 21:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GregS emotes: &quot;So basically this ruling means there is no such thing as unlawful entry by a police officer in Indiana&quot;

No, that is not what the ruling says. Read the ruling if you&#039;re unclear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GregS emotes: &#8220;So basically this ruling means there is no such thing as unlawful entry by a police officer in Indiana&#8221;</p>
<p>No, that is not what the ruling says. Read the ruling if you&#8217;re unclear.</p>
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		By: GregS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GregS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So basically this ruling means there is no such thing as unlawful entry by a police officer in Indiana. Because if the police can enter any property they want without a warrant and suffer no legal penalty for doing so, and if you can&#039;t legally resist them, then in what meaningful way is this police entry unlawful any longer?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically this ruling means there is no such thing as unlawful entry by a police officer in Indiana. Because if the police can enter any property they want without a warrant and suffer no legal penalty for doing so, and if you can&#8217;t legally resist them, then in what meaningful way is this police entry unlawful any longer?</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 15:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, given that if you resist you&#039;ll likely end up dead, I don&#039;t think legal penalties will deter much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, given that if you resist you&#8217;ll likely end up dead, I don&#8217;t think legal penalties will deter much.</p>
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		By: J.T. Wenting		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.T. Wenting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 04:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@gitarcarver the text is ludicrous, but it clearly intents to state that whatever the police does IS the law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gitarcarver the text is ludicrous, but it clearly intents to state that whatever the police does IS the law.</p>
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		By: asdfasdf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 22:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can someone explain why in this suit there is no ex post fact issue?

Even the Court conceded that prior to its decision, there was a common law right to resist. Whether the Court was correct or not in removing that right, shouldn&#039;t the defendant be judged according to the common law in effect at the time of his resistance?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain why in this suit there is no ex post fact issue?</p>
<p>Even the Court conceded that prior to its decision, there was a common law right to resist. Whether the Court was correct or not in removing that right, shouldn&#8217;t the defendant be judged according to the common law in effect at the time of his resistance?</p>
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		By: VMS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VMS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 20:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mannie

But the truth of the matter is that the homeowner&#039;s &quot;remedy&quot; would be to file a civil suit against the police, which will inevitably get dismissed on qualified immunity grounds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mannie</p>
<p>But the truth of the matter is that the homeowner&#8217;s &#8220;remedy&#8221; would be to file a civil suit against the police, which will inevitably get dismissed on qualified immunity grounds.</p>
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