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		By: June 27 roundup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June 27 roundup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8220;The Dept of Education, Yale, and the New Threat to Free Speech on Campus&#8221; [Greg Lukianoff/HuffPo] &#8220;In Making Campuses Safe for Women, a Travesty of Justice for Men&#8221; [Christina Sommers, Chron Higher Ed] Feds crack down on campus flirting and sex jokes [Michael Barone, D.C. Examiner] Heather Mac Donald on Yale hostile-environment complaint [City Journal, earlier] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#8220;The Dept of Education, Yale, and the New Threat to Free Speech on Campus&#8221; [Greg Lukianoff/HuffPo] &#8220;In Making Campuses Safe for Women, a Travesty of Justice for Men&#8221; [Christina Sommers, Chron Higher Ed] Feds crack down on campus flirting and sex jokes [Michael Barone, D.C. Examiner] Heather Mac Donald on Yale hostile-environment complaint [City Journal, earlier] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: William Nuesslein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Nuesslein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the CATO article Mr. Shapiro says:
&quot;Now, it is undoubtedly extraordinarily difficult for a rape victim to face her attacker, ....&quot;

Really? Was this very wide held belief ever tested in some way? It is the key reason for granting an edge to the accuser in a rape case.

Justice Ginsberg talked the court into finding for the plaintiff in the mis-labeled strip-search case. The proposed embarrassment of the female plaintiff carried the day. But Justice Ginsberg had no objection to the 24 year sentence, based on a kangaroo court trial,  imposed on Jeff Skilling. 

When we assert in the pledge of allegiance &quot;liberty and justice for all.&quot; It means for all based on evidence without fancy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the CATO article Mr. Shapiro says:<br />
&#8220;Now, it is undoubtedly extraordinarily difficult for a rape victim to face her attacker, &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Was this very wide held belief ever tested in some way? It is the key reason for granting an edge to the accuser in a rape case.</p>
<p>Justice Ginsberg talked the court into finding for the plaintiff in the mis-labeled strip-search case. The proposed embarrassment of the female plaintiff carried the day. But Justice Ginsberg had no objection to the 24 year sentence, based on a kangaroo court trial,  imposed on Jeff Skilling. </p>
<p>When we assert in the pledge of allegiance &#8220;liberty and justice for all.&#8221; It means for all based on evidence without fancy.</p>
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		By: Sam T		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The conservative solution: get rid of due process AND women&#039;s rights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conservative solution: get rid of due process AND women&#8217;s rights.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Attorney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Attorney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 14:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[George Will once joked about forcing liberals to set up a zero-sum account for two things:  AIDS research, and arts funding.  Then watch the fun begin.

The tension between due process and &quot;women&#039;s rights&quot; is another enjoyable liberal-on-liberal conflict.  On the one hand, defendants can&#039;t be railroaded -- they&#039;ve got rights!  On the other, any time a woman claims assault, she&#039;s got rights!  What to do, what to do?

Prediction:  &quot;women&#039;s rights&quot; (the quote marks should be neon and flashing, btw) will probably win.  That&#039;s because &quot;oppressed class&quot; identity politics typically trump broader-based, classically liberal values like due process (not here suggesting conservatives don&#039;t want due process at all, just that &quot;due process&quot; is often thrown up by liberals as a way of achieving other values).  Charged with a hate crime against Hispanics?  No due process for you!  And so on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Will once joked about forcing liberals to set up a zero-sum account for two things:  AIDS research, and arts funding.  Then watch the fun begin.</p>
<p>The tension between due process and &#8220;women&#8217;s rights&#8221; is another enjoyable liberal-on-liberal conflict.  On the one hand, defendants can&#8217;t be railroaded &#8212; they&#8217;ve got rights!  On the other, any time a woman claims assault, she&#8217;s got rights!  What to do, what to do?</p>
<p>Prediction:  &#8220;women&#8217;s rights&#8221; (the quote marks should be neon and flashing, btw) will probably win.  That&#8217;s because &#8220;oppressed class&#8221; identity politics typically trump broader-based, classically liberal values like due process (not here suggesting conservatives don&#8217;t want due process at all, just that &#8220;due process&#8221; is often thrown up by liberals as a way of achieving other values).  Charged with a hate crime against Hispanics?  No due process for you!  And so on.</p>
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