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	Comments on: Court: IVF clinic cannot turn away single customers	</title>
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		By: Xmas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xmas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill,

The clinic could counter-sue for custody, if the laws are that vague.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>The clinic could counter-sue for custody, if the laws are that vague.</p>
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		By: Bill Alexander		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Alexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would the clinic get visitation? Every other weekend and half the holidays?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would the clinic get visitation? Every other weekend and half the holidays?</p>
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		By: OBQuiet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBQuiet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would think that he explaination given clearly showed that she was refused service because of possible legal liability, NOT because of her marital status. Though it was the marital status that opened the issue of liability. Sounds to me as if an improvement in the Paternity laws would have ended the clinics objection. 

Otherwise, if the clinics interpretation of the law is correct, are we saying that they can be REQUIRED to father and help raise a child for any unmarried woman on demand?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that he explaination given clearly showed that she was refused service because of possible legal liability, NOT because of her marital status. Though it was the marital status that opened the issue of liability. Sounds to me as if an improvement in the Paternity laws would have ended the clinics objection. </p>
<p>Otherwise, if the clinics interpretation of the law is correct, are we saying that they can be REQUIRED to father and help raise a child for any unmarried woman on demand?</p>
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		By: Uno Hu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uno Hu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Melvin H. &#060;=  Unfortunately, almost any private &#034;right&#034; that you can think of gets subordinated to a &#034;civil rights&#034; complaint.  I have a company that does bush-hogging on private contract.  The &#034;employees&#034; are 100% white (1 person -me), but nonetheless, I expect that at some point I will have to explain to some federal/state/city bureaucrat why I don&#039;t &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; to hire another (black) employee because &lt;em&gt;I only have one tractor to drive&lt;/em&gt; and I drive it.  This fits right in with penalizing photographers who don&#039;t want to take pictures of weddings with two grooms or bakers who decline to bake cakes for receptions with two brides!!

In the future, the intelligent doctor who finds purposefully fertilizing prospective single mothers distasteful would be well advised to take the mark&#039;s dollars and then proceed to implant non-fertilized or otherwise devitalized ova.  Is this really what we &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to teach our doctors -  that circumstances require now require that to remain in practice they must abandon one or another of their principles (fidelity to that which they consider &quot;wise&quot;, or their obligation to be truthful with their patients)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melvin H. &lt;=  Unfortunately, almost any private &quot;right&quot; that you can think of gets subordinated to a &quot;civil rights&quot; complaint.  I have a company that does bush-hogging on private contract.  The &quot;employees&quot; are 100% white (1 person -me), but nonetheless, I expect that at some point I will have to explain to some federal/state/city bureaucrat why I don&#039;t <em>need</em> to hire another (black) employee because <em>I only have one tractor to drive</em> and I drive it.  This fits right in with penalizing photographers who don&#8217;t want to take pictures of weddings with two grooms or bakers who decline to bake cakes for receptions with two brides!!</p>
<p>In the future, the intelligent doctor who finds purposefully fertilizing prospective single mothers distasteful would be well advised to take the mark&#8217;s dollars and then proceed to implant non-fertilized or otherwise devitalized ova.  Is this really what we <em>want</em> to teach our doctors &#8211;  that circumstances require now require that to remain in practice they must abandon one or another of their principles (fidelity to that which they consider &#8220;wise&#8221;, or their obligation to be truthful with their patients)?</p>
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		By: Smart Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smart Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 07:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[State and  federal governments are acting like Inspector Jauvert in Les Misérables, in seeking out child support billing.

The clinic&#039;s concern that an IVF center could be held liable for child support under the vague Michigan paternity law has not been answered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>State and  federal governments are acting like Inspector Jauvert in Les Misérables, in seeking out child support billing.</p>
<p>The clinic&#8217;s concern that an IVF center could be held liable for child support under the vague Michigan paternity law has not been answered.</p>
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		By: Melvin H.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melvin H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 06:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, wouldn&#039;t the right of free association--and by extension, the right to &lt;I&gt; not&lt;/I&gt; associate with someone--trump the Michigan appeals court&#039;s interpretation of the civil-rights law?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, wouldn&#8217;t the right of free association&#8211;and by extension, the right to <i> not</i> associate with someone&#8211;trump the Michigan appeals court&#8217;s interpretation of the civil-rights law?</p>
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		By: Marty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sad.  Apparently the question of whether or not she even has a medical fertility problem doesn&#039;t even get raised here. 

Poor bastard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad.  Apparently the question of whether or not she even has a medical fertility problem doesn&#8217;t even get raised here. </p>
<p>Poor bastard.</p>
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		By: Jim Collins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You have to be kidding me.  I thought I had heard it all.  I wonder what this will mean to a friend of mine&#039;s paternity suit?  He worked in a nuclear power plant after getting out of the Navy and when he got married, they decided that they were not ready for children so he had his sperm frozen, just in case.  When he got divorced, he had forgotten about having put his sperm in storage.  His ex-wife, forged his signature on some paperwork and had herself artificially inseminated.  Then she filed suit against him for child support.  This is winding it&#039;s way through the courts and I wonder if this descision can be used against him?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to be kidding me.  I thought I had heard it all.  I wonder what this will mean to a friend of mine&#8217;s paternity suit?  He worked in a nuclear power plant after getting out of the Navy and when he got married, they decided that they were not ready for children so he had his sperm frozen, just in case.  When he got divorced, he had forgotten about having put his sperm in storage.  His ex-wife, forged his signature on some paperwork and had herself artificially inseminated.  Then she filed suit against him for child support.  This is winding it&#8217;s way through the courts and I wonder if this descision can be used against him?</p>
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