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	Comments on: EEOC sues construction company for not hiring applicant with epilepsy to run heavy equipment	</title>
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		By: DensityDuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Do you want to accept the liability if he has a siezure while at the controls and kills somebody?&quot;

Well, I can get run over and killed by a perfectly healthy person who looked the wrong way at the wrong time, so I&#039;m not sure where you&#039;re going with that.

&quot;A diabetic can monitor their blood sugar levels and has some control over their situation, an epileptic does not.&quot;

Either it&#039;s controlled by the medication or it isn&#039;t.  And diabetics can screw up their control, suffer mental effects from it, and get into car accidents.  If you want to claim that &quot;medication to control the condition doesn&#039;t guarantee you won&#039;t suffer effects&quot; then epilepsy is hardly the only condition you need to worry about.

And--like I said in the alcoholism post--I can&#039;t think of a better way to discourage honest self-reporting than to fire people for doing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you want to accept the liability if he has a siezure while at the controls and kills somebody?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I can get run over and killed by a perfectly healthy person who looked the wrong way at the wrong time, so I&#8217;m not sure where you&#8217;re going with that.</p>
<p>&#8220;A diabetic can monitor their blood sugar levels and has some control over their situation, an epileptic does not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Either it&#8217;s controlled by the medication or it isn&#8217;t.  And diabetics can screw up their control, suffer mental effects from it, and get into car accidents.  If you want to claim that &#8220;medication to control the condition doesn&#8217;t guarantee you won&#8217;t suffer effects&#8221; then epilepsy is hardly the only condition you need to worry about.</p>
<p>And&#8211;like I said in the alcoholism post&#8211;I can&#8217;t think of a better way to discourage honest self-reporting than to fire people for doing it.</p>
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		By: Washington Post: Obama Energy Programs &#8220;Infused With Politics at Every Level&#8221;		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] based on merit, thus discouraging employers from hiring or expanding operations, and the EEOC is bringing costly, unjustified lawsuits against businesses.  The 2010 healthcare law imposes financial burdens &#8212; some of them large, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] based on merit, thus discouraging employers from hiring or expanding operations, and the EEOC is bringing costly, unjustified lawsuits against businesses.  The 2010 healthcare law imposes financial burdens &#8212; some of them large, [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: SteveBrooklineMA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe people with a history of diagnosed epilepsy must be off medication and seizure free for 10 years before they can pass the DOT exam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe people with a history of diagnosed epilepsy must be off medication and seizure free for 10 years before they can pass the DOT exam.</p>
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		By: Shaking With Indignation &#171; threedonia.com		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaking With Indignation &#171; threedonia.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] at 08:05:31 AM And seizing the high moral ground&#8230; the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is looking out for us. From Walter Olson&#8217;s invaluable site Overlawyered.com: The EEOC’s press release is not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] at 08:05:31 AM And seizing the high moral ground&#8230; the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is looking out for us. From Walter Olson&#8217;s invaluable site Overlawyered.com: The EEOC’s press release is not [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Moonbattery &#187; Federal Bureauweenies Impose Epileptic Heavy Equipment Operators		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moonbattery &#187; Federal Bureauweenies Impose Epileptic Heavy Equipment Operators]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] On a tip from GoY. Hat tip: Overlawyered. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] On a tip from GoY. Hat tip: Overlawyered. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: asdfasdf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reminds me the famous case epilepsy causing car accident case of Hammontree v. Jenner, 20 Cal. App. 3d 528 (Cal. 1971). &quot;Defendant claimed he became unconscious during an epileptic seizure losing control of his car...from 1955 until the accident occurred defendant used phelantin which controlled his condition.&quot; Defendant prevailed on negligence and plaintiff&#039;s argument that strict liability should adhere rejected because &quot;Even assuming...defendant knew he had a history of epilepsy, previously had suffered seizures and at the time of the accident was attempting to control the condition by medication, the [proposed jury] instruction does not except from its ambit the driver who suddenly is stricken by an illness or physical condition which he had no reason by an illness or physical condition which he had no reason whatever to anticipate and of which he had no prior knowledge.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me the famous case epilepsy causing car accident case of Hammontree v. Jenner, 20 Cal. App. 3d 528 (Cal. 1971). &#8220;Defendant claimed he became unconscious during an epileptic seizure losing control of his car&#8230;from 1955 until the accident occurred defendant used phelantin which controlled his condition.&#8221; Defendant prevailed on negligence and plaintiff&#8217;s argument that strict liability should adhere rejected because &#8220;Even assuming&#8230;defendant knew he had a history of epilepsy, previously had suffered seizures and at the time of the accident was attempting to control the condition by medication, the [proposed jury] instruction does not except from its ambit the driver who suddenly is stricken by an illness or physical condition which he had no reason by an illness or physical condition which he had no reason whatever to anticipate and of which he had no prior knowledge.&#8221;</p>
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		By: EEOC Wants Construction Company To Allow Applicant With Epilepsy To Operate Heavy Equipment &#124; The Laconic Law Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EEOC Wants Construction Company To Allow Applicant With Epilepsy To Operate Heavy Equipment &#124; The Laconic Law Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] has a post here on a new lawsuit filed by the EEOC against a construction company for refusing to hire an applicant [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] has a post here on a new lawsuit filed by the EEOC against a construction company for refusing to hire an applicant [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Bill Poser		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does the FAA now refuse certificates to controlled epileptics? I&#039;m pretty sure that it has not always done so because as a teenager I remember my father, a neurologist, testifying in a hearing on such a case, which he told me ultimately resulted in the granting of the certificate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the FAA now refuse certificates to controlled epileptics? I&#8217;m pretty sure that it has not always done so because as a teenager I remember my father, a neurologist, testifying in a hearing on such a case, which he told me ultimately resulted in the granting of the certificate.</p>
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		By: AZFlyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder what the EEOC would think about the FAA&#039;s treatment of persons with an epileptic history.   They will not even consider allowing a private certificate, much less any kind of commercial certificate.   

  It appears that the EEOC lawyer considers the DOT&#039;s objections are due to myths or stereotypes about epilepsy.   I personally know two epileptics that have had seizures after decades of control by medication.   It is not the &quot;cure&quot; that he seems to think it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what the EEOC would think about the FAA&#8217;s treatment of persons with an epileptic history.   They will not even consider allowing a private certificate, much less any kind of commercial certificate.   </p>
<p>  It appears that the EEOC lawyer considers the DOT&#8217;s objections are due to myths or stereotypes about epilepsy.   I personally know two epileptics that have had seizures after decades of control by medication.   It is not the &#8220;cure&#8221; that he seems to think it is.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Duck,

The test is administered by the Department of Transportation.   Why is Garney and Georgia Power being held accountable for the results or standards of a federally administered test?  

If Bryan Mimmovich (the plaintiff) and the EEOC is allowed to say the results of the test are invalid, why should anyone have to take the test to begin with?  Why should Mimmovich be given a pass on a requirement with others cannot get that same pass?

For years people have said the ADA is not interested in leveling the playing field but tipping it in the favor of the disabled and against the rights of companies.  This seems to be a case which illustrates that fact.  

If a company is sued by one department of the Federal government for following the results of a test administered by another department of the Federal government, what does that say about the regulations and requirements of the Federal government?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duck,</p>
<p>The test is administered by the Department of Transportation.   Why is Garney and Georgia Power being held accountable for the results or standards of a federally administered test?  </p>
<p>If Bryan Mimmovich (the plaintiff) and the EEOC is allowed to say the results of the test are invalid, why should anyone have to take the test to begin with?  Why should Mimmovich be given a pass on a requirement with others cannot get that same pass?</p>
<p>For years people have said the ADA is not interested in leveling the playing field but tipping it in the favor of the disabled and against the rights of companies.  This seems to be a case which illustrates that fact.  </p>
<p>If a company is sued by one department of the Federal government for following the results of a test administered by another department of the Federal government, what does that say about the regulations and requirements of the Federal government?</p>
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