Comments on: May 22 roundup

By: DensityDuck

DensityDuck — Wed, 23 May 2012 16:24:13 +0000

Walter: Thank you. Like I said, it's not that this isn't a problem; let's just be clear on what the problem actually is. Nothing kills a genuine concern quicker than aiming it at the wrong target.

By: VMS

VMS — Wed, 23 May 2012 00:48:33 +0000

The registrant of the website http://www.hotcoffeetruth.com/ is the US Chamber of Commerce, hardly an unbiased entity on this subject.
Nowhere on the site do they explain who they really are. The site however criticizes incomplete disclosure from the makers of the coffee movie, while incompletely and misleadingly reporting on their own.

From their website:
About the U.S. Chamber of Commerce

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the world’s largest business organization representing the interests of more than 3 million businesses of all sizes, sectors, and regions. Our members range from mom-and-pop shops and local chambers to leading industry associations and large corporations. They all share one thing in common—they count on the Chamber to be their voice in Washington, D.C.

With that said, 200 degree coffee in and of itself, should not be considered an excessively dangerous product. Combined, however, with flimsy cups and cracked lids, in my opinion, makes it dangerous. In addition, packaging the coffee on its side, in a paper bag is negligent on the part of the vendor.

By: Walter Olson

Walter Olson — Tue, 22 May 2012 16:18:18 +0000

You make a good point and I’ve reworded so as not to track the Examiner’s perhaps overwrought headline. Musicians are definitely scared of taking their instruments across international lines, but that’s still a step short of domestic raids.

By: DensityDuck

DensityDuck — Tue, 22 May 2012 15:58:26 +0000

Nobody’s threatened to “sieze” anything. In fact, according to Sen. Alexander, the DoJ and Fish&Wildlife have said that they won’t do that. He and Sen. Wyden just want to make a law guaranteeing that it can’t happen. The whole “poised to seize” is the article writer’s invention.

Not that the whole “we’re not going after musicians” thing excuses anyone. If anything, it makes it more questionable as to why only Gibson was raided.

By: Yeaah

Yeaah — Tue, 22 May 2012 07:13:34 +0000

Youtube version of the coffee movie. The video is very slow and has long introductions and you can skip them in this version. Even better if you can download it and double the speed.