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	Comments on: Ambassador&#8217;s murder fuels calls for hate-speech bans	</title>
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		By: Free speech roundup - Overlawyered		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/09/ambassadors-murder-fuels-calls-hate-speech-bans/comment-page-1/#comment-174022</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Free speech roundup - Overlawyered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] makers of anti-Muslim YouTube video for supposed incitement [Ann Althouse on Sarah Chayes, earlier here and here; also, the late Christopher Hitchens on &#034;fire in a crowded theater&#034; arguments] &#8220;The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] makers of anti-Muslim YouTube video for supposed incitement [Ann Althouse on Sarah Chayes, earlier here and here; also, the late Christopher Hitchens on &quot;fire in a crowded theater&quot; arguments] &#8220;The [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Michael Ejercito		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Ejercito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Suppose we followed international norms with respect to same-sex &quot;marriage&quot;. The number of sovereign nations that ban same-sex &quot;marriage&quot; via constitutional provision, forty-six, greatly exceed the number of nations that ban same-sex &quot;marriage&quot;. Clearly, the 14th Amendment can not require legal recognition of same-sex &quot;marriage&quot; under this standard.

And what about the Fourth Amendment? A quadruple amputee would have enough digits to count the number of other countries that have a rule where evidence is excluded if law enforcement obtained it during a search without probable cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose we followed international norms with respect to same-sex &#8220;marriage&#8221;. The number of sovereign nations that ban same-sex &#8220;marriage&#8221; via constitutional provision, forty-six, greatly exceed the number of nations that ban same-sex &#8220;marriage&#8221;. Clearly, the 14th Amendment can not require legal recognition of same-sex &#8220;marriage&#8221; under this standard.</p>
<p>And what about the Fourth Amendment? A quadruple amputee would have enough digits to count the number of other countries that have a rule where evidence is excluded if law enforcement obtained it during a search without probable cause.</p>
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		By: PointOfLaw Forum		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/09/ambassadors-murder-fuels-calls-hate-speech-bans/comment-page-1/#comment-173874</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Around the web, September 16...&lt;/strong&gt;

Michael Carvin testimony defends Citizens United and criticizes DOJ&#039;s attacks on Texas over redistricting; meanwhile, no one in the media is covering the fact that DOJ&#039;s litigation against South Carolina was politically motivated, brought over the ob...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Around the web, September 16&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Michael Carvin testimony defends Citizens United and criticizes DOJ&#8217;s attacks on Texas over redistricting; meanwhile, no one in the media is covering the fact that DOJ&#8217;s litigation against South Carolina was politically motivated, brought over the ob&#8230;</p>
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		By: The White House calls YouTube: how about yanking that video? - Overlawyered		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/09/ambassadors-murder-fuels-calls-hate-speech-bans/comment-page-1/#comment-173852</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The White House calls YouTube: how about yanking that video? - Overlawyered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] its guidelines.&#8221; [L.A. Times, Washington Post, Jesse Walker, Matt Welch, Paul Alan Levy; previously on calls to suppress putative &#034;hate speech&#034; in response to riots in the Middle East and elsewhere] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] its guidelines.&#8221; [L.A. Times, Washington Post, Jesse Walker, Matt Welch, Paul Alan Levy; previously on calls to suppress putative &quot;hate speech&quot; in response to riots in the Middle East and elsewhere] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: A Few Stray Saturday Thoughts About The "The Innocence of Muslims" Video &#124; Popehat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Few Stray Saturday Thoughts About The "The Innocence of Muslims" Video &#124; Popehat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] believe it or not, include Western law professors who believe that the United States Constitution, specifically including the First Amendment, should be subservient to international treaties prohibit.... I&#039;m not given to frequent use of rhetorical flourishes like this, but: the point at which the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] believe it or not, include Western law professors who believe that the United States Constitution, specifically including the First Amendment, should be subservient to international treaties prohibit&#8230;. I&#039;m not given to frequent use of rhetorical flourishes like this, but: the point at which the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Hugo S. Cunningham		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/09/ambassadors-murder-fuels-calls-hate-speech-bans/comment-page-1/#comment-173842</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugo S. Cunningham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I concur with the other posters here.

Would-be censors point out the artistic and scholarly worthlessness of the video clip in question.  It is common knowledge, however, that if we grant the jihadists censorship here, they will then demand we censor more accurate and substantive criticism.

I am not so unyielding on protecting &quot;symbolic speech,&quot; however.  A year or two ago, some publicity-seeking Florida reverend was proposing to burn a Qur&#039;an on camera.  After intense behing-the-scenes pressure, he was persuaded to back off.  If he had not, I would have favored blocking him from &quot;inciting a riot.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with the other posters here.</p>
<p>Would-be censors point out the artistic and scholarly worthlessness of the video clip in question.  It is common knowledge, however, that if we grant the jihadists censorship here, they will then demand we censor more accurate and substantive criticism.</p>
<p>I am not so unyielding on protecting &#8220;symbolic speech,&#8221; however.  A year or two ago, some publicity-seeking Florida reverend was proposing to burn a Qur&#8217;an on camera.  After intense behing-the-scenes pressure, he was persuaded to back off.  If he had not, I would have favored blocking him from &#8220;inciting a riot.&#8221;</p>
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		By: boblipton		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/09/ambassadors-murder-fuels-calls-hate-speech-bans/comment-page-1/#comment-173828</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boblipton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 03:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[... this trial has shown that under the stress of a national crisis, men - even able and extraordinary men - can delude themselves into the commission of crimes and atrocities so vast and heinous as to stagger the imagination. No one who has sat through this trial can ever forget. The sterilization of men because of their political beliefs... The murder of children... How *easily* that can happen! There are those in our country today, too, who speak of the &quot;protection&quot; of the country. Of &quot;survival&quot;. The answer to that is: *survival as what*? A country isn&#039;t a rock. And it isn&#039;t an extension of one&#039;s self. *It&#039;s what it stands for, when standing for something is the most difficult!

-- JUDGMENT AT NUREMBERG

I stand for the constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; this trial has shown that under the stress of a national crisis, men &#8211; even able and extraordinary men &#8211; can delude themselves into the commission of crimes and atrocities so vast and heinous as to stagger the imagination. No one who has sat through this trial can ever forget. The sterilization of men because of their political beliefs&#8230; The murder of children&#8230; How *easily* that can happen! There are those in our country today, too, who speak of the &#8220;protection&#8221; of the country. Of &#8220;survival&#8221;. The answer to that is: *survival as what*? A country isn&#8217;t a rock. And it isn&#8217;t an extension of one&#8217;s self. *It&#8217;s what it stands for, when standing for something is the most difficult!</p>
<p>&#8212; JUDGMENT AT NUREMBERG</p>
<p>I stand for the constitution and the Bill of Rights.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		By: Ron Miller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 01:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think people often overreact in the heat of the moment.  If you didn&#039;t do this on some level - if only in your own mind - after 9/11, raise your hand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people often overreact in the heat of the moment.  If you didn&#8217;t do this on some level &#8211; if only in your own mind &#8211; after 9/11, raise your hand.</p>
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		By: John Christopher Sunol		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Christopher Sunol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also beleive that national security risks should take over form free speech where it endangers others lives of the country going to war]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also beleive that national security risks should take over form free speech where it endangers others lives of the country going to war</p>
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		By: Gradivus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gradivus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tenured professors who are social liberals value free speech for tenured professors who are social liberals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tenured professors who are social liberals value free speech for tenured professors who are social liberals.</p>
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