Comments on: “Cranston, RI Schools End Father-Daughter Dances After ACLU Complaint”

By: HFB

HFB — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:20:52 +0000

So, can you have boys b-ball and girls b-ball teams?

Perhaps. Just have to let boys and girls try out for both. When the wrong mix of girls and boys happens (even possible that few if any girls would get to play in some schools), we can bring up Title IX. Then, nobody gets to play.

My comment about using the girls washroom is meant to show that there currently exists, and always will be, a need for gender specific rules. Note that no one said that there couldn’t be a different dance for people who don’t want the “daddy” reference-i.e. one for mommy/son- just that this one is for father/daughters.

I’m also curious why the ACLU brought this up when this is clearly in violation of the law and the DA(?) should have brought charges or required the school district to change.

We become so “tolerant” that we have completed the loop and are now intolerant.

The comment about the village was apt.

By: Hugo S. Cunningham

Hugo S. Cunningham — Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:26:25 +0000

Moderate supporters of such laws might provide a legislative safety valve: that a resolution or majority-petition of either house of the legislature would be sufficient to disallow an “unreasonable” or “harmful” application of the law, eg interfering with a harmless and popular father-daughter dance tradition. The legislators (and the voters they account to) would be sole judges on what applications are “unreasonable” or harmful.”

By: Melvin H.

Melvin H. — Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:11:20 +0000

So, that would also seem to eliminate….what else? Any public-school facility, armories, city-/state-/ county-owned facilities, college facilities of sufficient size, even arenas too? Would the dances then even be disallowed in places such as hotels, private social clubs (I.e., Knights of Columbus halls), military NCO/officers’ clubs, roller skating rinks, etc.– and how would this law affect an event like a debutante ball?
(Could this ruling be appealed on grounds of freedom of assembly or freedom of association?)

By: Jim Collins

Jim Collins — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:11:40 +0000

The school would be seen as providing support for the dance. That was why many schools told their Boy Scout Troops that they would have to find other places to hold their meetings a while back. After reading a bit more about the law, I’m not sure that it could be held privately either. The ACLU would still whine.

No barnod, I think the law itself is wrong and should be repealed.

By: Melvin H.

Melvin H. — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:09:07 +0000

It wouldn’t??? Seems to me that if a private organization puts on a father-daughter dance at a high school gym, it’s not the school or school district “sponsoring” the event….?

By: barnord

barnord — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:17:53 +0000

Of course. It can’t be hled anywhere the law applies, in a public space as opposed to a private one.

By: Darleen

Darleen — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:50:46 +0000

barnord

last I looked, the law was to protect individual rights from harm — including the right to voluntarily choose what activities I wished to participate in.

What the RI ACLU spokeshole Steve Brown made clear this is about the Left “nudging” society into the utopian direction they believe in. It’s about using law as a societal cudgel. Brown was outrage that in 2012!! that anyone should even think father/daughter dances were appropriate because it enforced “blatant gender stereotypes” that girls actually may like to participate dances more than attending a baseball game.

Oh the humanity! How dare we allow sex-differences!

The enforcement of lie of “the sexes are fungible” by Utopians is not going end well.

By: Melvin H.

Melvin H. — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 04:05:49 +0000

Barnord, would it be illegal for your “private organization” to hold the father-daughter dance…at the high school gym?

By: barnord

barnord — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:15:14 +0000

So commenters on thissite are composed of individuals opposed to implentation of legal laws and willing to allow their appointed school officials to face jail and/or fines because the commenters don”t agree, Wobbly-style, with the laws?

And it wouldn’t be illegal for a private organization to hold a father-daughter, mother -son dance. It’s just illegal for the government to do so.

By: Mannie

Mannie — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:48:06 +0000

DEM 09.20.12 at 10:33 am

I would have ignored the law, if the law is as you claim. Make the ACLU or the state sue to put stop to this dance.

That’s expensive. And that is ACLU’s big gun – the expense to the school district.

ACLU = Americans Can’t be Left Unsupervised
(Stolen from radio caller)