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	Comments on: &#8220;Parents Face Jail Time For Kids&#8217; Drinking Parties&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Links (#118) &#171; The Honest Courtesan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Links (#118) &#171; The Honest Courtesan]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Another brick in the growing &#8220;strict liability&#8221; wall. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Another brick in the growing &#8220;strict liability&#8221; wall. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: a_random_guy		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/parents-face-jail-time-for-kids-drinking-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-174537</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These laws are just unbelievable. What happens in the privacy of my home is simply none of anyone&#039;s business. How are kids supposed to learn how to drink responsibly, if they are not allowed to try the stuff under supervision?

As one comment on the article points out: it isn&#039;t going to end here. If the government can tell us when and to whom we may serve alcohol, we may also expect them to tell us when and how we may prepare food. Entertaining for business? Perhaps the health department should inspect your kitchen. What&#039;s business anyway - I mean, any gathering of people may involve some networking. Perhaps all private kitchens should be inspected and licensed...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These laws are just unbelievable. What happens in the privacy of my home is simply none of anyone&#8217;s business. How are kids supposed to learn how to drink responsibly, if they are not allowed to try the stuff under supervision?</p>
<p>As one comment on the article points out: it isn&#8217;t going to end here. If the government can tell us when and to whom we may serve alcohol, we may also expect them to tell us when and how we may prepare food. Entertaining for business? Perhaps the health department should inspect your kitchen. What&#8217;s business anyway &#8211; I mean, any gathering of people may involve some networking. Perhaps all private kitchens should be inspected and licensed&#8230;</p>
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		By: ShelbyC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ShelbyC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 01:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@aaaa 
&quot;Are those “Mothers Against Drunk Driving” on some kind of dope? How come that these groups have so much power? There must be some structural reason for such craziness. &quot;

Lobbying money, that comes from involuntary contributions from the people convicted of the crimes that they lobby for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aaaa<br />
&#8220;Are those “Mothers Against Drunk Driving” on some kind of dope? How come that these groups have so much power? There must be some structural reason for such craziness. &#8221;</p>
<p>Lobbying money, that comes from involuntary contributions from the people convicted of the crimes that they lobby for.</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your children belong to the State, and the State will decide what is good for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your children belong to the State, and the State will decide what is good for them.</p>
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		By: Jim Collins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John,
Don&#039;t forget the fees that MADD gets for their Victim Impact Panels and other farces that are made mandatory in plea bargains and as a part of sentencing.  The majority of these are done by volunteers, but, MADD gets the fees assessed to the attendees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
Don&#8217;t forget the fees that MADD gets for their Victim Impact Panels and other farces that are made mandatory in plea bargains and as a part of sentencing.  The majority of these are done by volunteers, but, MADD gets the fees assessed to the attendees.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/parents-face-jail-time-for-kids-drinking-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-174463</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In order to maintain its fundraising, and public interest in its operations, any nonprofit must have an &quot;issue.&quot; Once one issue is resolved (e.g. in the environmental context,Westway, the Manhattan roadway/development project which was sucessfully blocked by a tagteam made up of public interest lawyers, environmental organizations, citizens, and politicians) the nonprofit must find another. MADD is essentially a one-issue operation, thus once it achieves strict DUI/DWI laws in a jurisdiction (which it has done by advocating increasingly restrictive BAC levels), it must come up with a proposal for a new restriction  related to alcohol use. This is it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to maintain its fundraising, and public interest in its operations, any nonprofit must have an &#8220;issue.&#8221; Once one issue is resolved (e.g. in the environmental context,Westway, the Manhattan roadway/development project which was sucessfully blocked by a tagteam made up of public interest lawyers, environmental organizations, citizens, and politicians) the nonprofit must find another. MADD is essentially a one-issue operation, thus once it achieves strict DUI/DWI laws in a jurisdiction (which it has done by advocating increasingly restrictive BAC levels), it must come up with a proposal for a new restriction  related to alcohol use. This is it.</p>
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		By: John Burgess		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/parents-face-jail-time-for-kids-drinking-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-174451</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Burgess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@aaaa: How do they come to have such power? From Wikepedia:

&lt;blockquote&gt;According to the Obama-Coburn Federal Funding Accountability Transparency Act of 2006, MADD received $56,814 in funds from the federal government in fiscal year 2000, and a total of $9,593,455 between fiscal years 2001 and 2006.[16]

In 1994, Money magazine reported that telemarketers raised over $38 million for MADD, keeping nearly half of it in fees. This relationship continues to date.[17]

2001, Worth magazine listed MADD as one of its &quot;10 worst charities&quot;.

In 2005, USA Today reported that the American Institute of Philanthropy was reducing MADD from a &quot;C&quot; to a &quot;D&quot; in its ratings. The Institute noted that MADD categorizes much of its fundraising expenses as &quot;educational expenses&quot;, and that up to 58% of its revenue was expended on what the Institute considered fund-raising and management.[18]

Charity Navigator rated MADD at 36.72 on its charity rating scale for the 2006/2007 fiscal year, based on it efficiency and capacity.[19] MADD reported that it spent 16% of its budget on fundraising that year.[19] Charity Navigator reported MADD&#039;s total revenue for the year as $49 million (US).[19]

In 2009 MADD took in $41,006,038 and paid salaries of $20,537,936, over half of their income.[20]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving#Funding]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aaaa: How do they come to have such power? From Wikepedia:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to the Obama-Coburn Federal Funding Accountability Transparency Act of 2006, MADD received $56,814 in funds from the federal government in fiscal year 2000, and a total of $9,593,455 between fiscal years 2001 and 2006.[16]</p>
<p>In 1994, Money magazine reported that telemarketers raised over $38 million for MADD, keeping nearly half of it in fees. This relationship continues to date.[17]</p>
<p>2001, Worth magazine listed MADD as one of its &#8220;10 worst charities&#8221;.</p>
<p>In 2005, USA Today reported that the American Institute of Philanthropy was reducing MADD from a &#8220;C&#8221; to a &#8220;D&#8221; in its ratings. The Institute noted that MADD categorizes much of its fundraising expenses as &#8220;educational expenses&#8221;, and that up to 58% of its revenue was expended on what the Institute considered fund-raising and management.[18]</p>
<p>Charity Navigator rated MADD at 36.72 on its charity rating scale for the 2006/2007 fiscal year, based on it efficiency and capacity.[19] MADD reported that it spent 16% of its budget on fundraising that year.[19] Charity Navigator reported MADD&#8217;s total revenue for the year as $49 million (US).[19]</p>
<p>In 2009 MADD took in $41,006,038 and paid salaries of $20,537,936, over half of their income.[20]</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving#Funding" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving#Funding</a></p>
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		By: Bumper		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/parents-face-jail-time-for-kids-drinking-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-174450</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bumper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Carrie Nation is alive and well at MADD, which is no longer about teens and drunk driving, but taking the nation back to prohibition. Apparently they haven&#039;t gotten to the chapter in their history book about what what a failure that it was...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie Nation is alive and well at MADD, which is no longer about teens and drunk driving, but taking the nation back to prohibition. Apparently they haven&#8217;t gotten to the chapter in their history book about what what a failure that it was&#8230;</p>
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		By: Small Government Guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Small Government Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a former life as a high school teacher, I sponsored the SADD (Students Against Driving Drunk) chapter. We emphasized helping your friends make good choices, and such things as taking away the keys. I don&#039;t know that I, in good conscience, could sponsor what this group has become now- modern day prohibitionists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a former life as a high school teacher, I sponsored the SADD (Students Against Driving Drunk) chapter. We emphasized helping your friends make good choices, and such things as taking away the keys. I don&#8217;t know that I, in good conscience, could sponsor what this group has become now- modern day prohibitionists.</p>
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		By: boblipton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boblipton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am of two minds about this.  Parents should be responsible for their children, but are, as a practical matter, unable to exercise the control that comes with that responsibility. In addition, vaguely worded laws are a bugaboo of mine.

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am of two minds about this.  Parents should be responsible for their children, but are, as a practical matter, unable to exercise the control that comes with that responsibility. In addition, vaguely worded laws are a bugaboo of mine.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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