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	Comments on: University of Richmond drops men&#8217;s soccer and track/field	</title>
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		By: Melvin H.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melvin H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 06:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Max, can &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; name one?  ((sound of crickets...))

The word I forgot to put in was  &quot;almost&quot;, as in &quot;...nearly--&lt;b&gt;almost&lt;/b&gt; exclusively?--on the proportional-representation clause...&quot;.   The other two prongs you mention never seem to be cited when a Title IX case comes up, as the only safe harbor courts, and such as the Women&#039;s Sports Foundation, seem to recognize/allow on any consistent basis is proportional enrollment.  Whether there is more interest among men compared to women in sports--an aspect that should be at least taken into account--is deemed irrelevant, sexist, outdated, etc.  That is way wrong, and way outdated--Title IX needs to be changed, and before it somehow gets applied to high schools.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, can <i>you</i> name one?  ((sound of crickets&#8230;))</p>
<p>The word I forgot to put in was  &#8220;almost&#8221;, as in &#8220;&#8230;nearly&#8211;<b>almost</b> exclusively?&#8211;on the proportional-representation clause&#8230;&#8221;.   The other two prongs you mention never seem to be cited when a Title IX case comes up, as the only safe harbor courts, and such as the Women&#8217;s Sports Foundation, seem to recognize/allow on any consistent basis is proportional enrollment.  Whether there is more interest among men compared to women in sports&#8211;an aspect that should be at least taken into account&#8211;is deemed irrelevant, sexist, outdated, etc.  That is way wrong, and way outdated&#8211;Title IX needs to be changed, and before it somehow gets applied to high schools.</p>
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		By: Deborah Elson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Elson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s an update on Towson University from the American Sports Council, one of the only organization&#039;s attempting to reform the law&#039;s regulations so that male athletes will no longer have to face discrimination caused by activists and government bureaucrats: http://savingsports.org/2012/10/09/puppeteeringattowsonuniversity/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an update on Towson University from the American Sports Council, one of the only organization&#8217;s attempting to reform the law&#8217;s regulations so that male athletes will no longer have to face discrimination caused by activists and government bureaucrats: <a href="http://savingsports.org/2012/10/09/puppeteeringattowsonuniversity/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://savingsports.org/2012/10/09/puppeteeringattowsonuniversity/</a></p>
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		By: Max Kennerly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Kennerly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Melvin, 

Your assertion sounds &quot;nice&quot; (for people trying to kill Title IX), but can you cite a single case in which a Court ignored the third prong of the three-prong test and instead required proportional-representation? 

I&#039;ll wait. It&#039;ll take you a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melvin, </p>
<p>Your assertion sounds &#8220;nice&#8221; (for people trying to kill Title IX), but can you cite a single case in which a Court ignored the third prong of the three-prong test and instead required proportional-representation? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wait. It&#8217;ll take you a while.</p>
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		By: Melvin H.		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/university-richmond-drops-mens-soccer-trackfield/comment-page-1/#comment-174670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melvin H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 05:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Max, that sounds nice, but the enforcement of Title IX  has been nearly--exclusively?--on the proportional-representation prong of the three-part test, prosecuted by the Feds and decided by the courts.....with the added  danger that Title IX may now be starting to be enforced at high-school level, something Title IX was explicitly never supposed to be done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, that sounds nice, but the enforcement of Title IX  has been nearly&#8211;exclusively?&#8211;on the proportional-representation prong of the three-part test, prosecuted by the Feds and decided by the courts&#8230;..with the added  danger that Title IX may now be starting to be enforced at high-school level, something Title IX was explicitly never supposed to be done.</p>
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		By: Max Kennerly		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/university-richmond-drops-mens-soccer-trackfield/comment-page-1/#comment-174648</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Kennerly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Culdescahcero -- In the time it took you to write, &quot;The test applied to sports is a 50/50 balance or proportional to school attendance,&quot; you could have used The Google to figure out you were wrong. Title IX has never required 50/50. One way of satisfying Title IX is proportional to enrollment, but that&#039;s not the only way. The more common way is to show &quot;The institution is fully and effectively accommodating the interests and abilities of the underrepresented sex.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Culdescahcero &#8212; In the time it took you to write, &#8220;The test applied to sports is a 50/50 balance or proportional to school attendance,&#8221; you could have used The Google to figure out you were wrong. Title IX has never required 50/50. One way of satisfying Title IX is proportional to enrollment, but that&#8217;s not the only way. The more common way is to show &#8220;The institution is fully and effectively accommodating the interests and abilities of the underrepresented sex.&#8221;</p>
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		By: culdesachero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[culdesachero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Title IX states that it is illegal for a federally funded school to discriminate on the basis of gender.  The test applied to sports is a 50/50 balance or proportional to school attendance.

All you have  to do, is find a program category, say arts, with a gender bias in favour of women and mount the same legal challenge.  Surely there must be the will (and the money) somewhere to back enough legal challenges nation-wide to cause a stir.  If you threaten the programs favoured by women, they&#039;re bound to take notice of the hypocrisy.
Fight insanity with insanity!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title IX states that it is illegal for a federally funded school to discriminate on the basis of gender.  The test applied to sports is a 50/50 balance or proportional to school attendance.</p>
<p>All you have  to do, is find a program category, say arts, with a gender bias in favour of women and mount the same legal challenge.  Surely there must be the will (and the money) somewhere to back enough legal challenges nation-wide to cause a stir.  If you threaten the programs favoured by women, they&#8217;re bound to take notice of the hypocrisy.<br />
Fight insanity with insanity!</p>
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		By: Jim Collins		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/university-richmond-drops-mens-soccer-trackfield/comment-page-1/#comment-174574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Title IX doesn&#039;t work that way ps.  It is like a check valve, it only works one way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title IX doesn&#8217;t work that way ps.  It is like a check valve, it only works one way.</p>
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		By: Max Kennerly		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/university-richmond-drops-mens-soccer-trackfield/comment-page-1/#comment-174564</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Kennerly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Title IX does not cause a university to make a revenue-neutral decision. Money does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title IX does not cause a university to make a revenue-neutral decision. Money does.</p>
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		By: Richard Nieporent		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2012/10/university-richmond-drops-mens-soccer-trackfield/comment-page-1/#comment-174555</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Nieporent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I teach in the computer science master’s degree program at Johns Hopkins University. Typically about 15-20% of the students in my classes are female. In the class I am teaching this semester, there are 2 female students out of 12 (17%).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach in the computer science master’s degree program at Johns Hopkins University. Typically about 15-20% of the students in my classes are female. In the class I am teaching this semester, there are 2 female students out of 12 (17%).</p>
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		By: ps		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[maybe the low numbers of men taking Womens Studies will finally see it dropped by universities. We could hope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe the low numbers of men taking Womens Studies will finally see it dropped by universities. We could hope.</p>
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