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	Comments on: Hemingway museum needs zoo license for cats	</title>
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		By: Dusty Rainbolt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dusty Rainbolt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have written about the museum for several publications. I have photographed them. The cats are not feral. They are contained within a cat fence that surrounds the property. All but a chosen few are altered. It&#039;s a huge compound and the cats are allowed to go where they want. They can even sleep on Hemingway&#039;s bed There&#039;s no crowding. The vet visits weekly. I even got to look at their vet records. I wish most cats received this quality of care and love. In a time when the nation is on the brink of bankruptcy, and when there are so many real issues these judges and bureaucracies could be addressing, it&#039;s a waste of time and taxpayer money to continue to hound the museum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written about the museum for several publications. I have photographed them. The cats are not feral. They are contained within a cat fence that surrounds the property. All but a chosen few are altered. It&#8217;s a huge compound and the cats are allowed to go where they want. They can even sleep on Hemingway&#8217;s bed There&#8217;s no crowding. The vet visits weekly. I even got to look at their vet records. I wish most cats received this quality of care and love. In a time when the nation is on the brink of bankruptcy, and when there are so many real issues these judges and bureaucracies could be addressing, it&#8217;s a waste of time and taxpayer money to continue to hound the museum.</p>
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		By: Klaus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Klaus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[30+ cats is too much for an author&#039;s museum. Hasn&#039;t anyone let the manager know there&#039;s a spay and neuter clinic down the street? Hemingway started with what, two cats? Just a tempest on a Key.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30+ cats is too much for an author&#8217;s museum. Hasn&#8217;t anyone let the manager know there&#8217;s a spay and neuter clinic down the street? Hemingway started with what, two cats? Just a tempest on a Key.</p>
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		By: George B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here are the FDA guidelines.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_welfare/content/printable_version/fs_anexhit.pdf

Note that cat shows and animal preserves would be exempt from federal regulation.  Also note that the Hemingway Museum neither sells cats nor puts on shows where the cats perform for money.  Instead they primarily preserve descendants of Hemingway&#039;s 6 toed cats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the FDA guidelines.<br />
<a href="http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_welfare/content/printable_version/fs_anexhit.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_welfare/content/printable_version/fs_anexhit.pdf</a></p>
<p>Note that cat shows and animal preserves would be exempt from federal regulation.  Also note that the Hemingway Museum neither sells cats nor puts on shows where the cats perform for money.  Instead they primarily preserve descendants of Hemingway&#8217;s 6 toed cats.</p>
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		By: DensityDuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DensityDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Nicholas:  There&#039;s a difference between &quot;enforcement&quot; and rulemaking.  The latter is what actually determines the extent of legal behavior, and defines what consistuties illegal behavior.  

And, the thing is, &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s not what the Executive Branch is supposed to be doing.&lt;/i&gt;  The intent was that the people would have as direct a say as possible in the laws of the land.   And, presumably, if we determined that a particular lawmaker was not making the laws as we wanted, we could vote for someone else who &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt;.

But you don&#039;t get to vote for the people in the FAA, or the FDA, or any of those organizations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicholas:  There&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;enforcement&#8221; and rulemaking.  The latter is what actually determines the extent of legal behavior, and defines what consistuties illegal behavior.  </p>
<p>And, the thing is, <i>that&#8217;s not what the Executive Branch is supposed to be doing.</i>  The intent was that the people would have as direct a say as possible in the laws of the land.   And, presumably, if we determined that a particular lawmaker was not making the laws as we wanted, we could vote for someone else who <i>would</i>.</p>
<p>But you don&#8217;t get to vote for the people in the FAA, or the FDA, or any of those organizations.</p>
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		By: Melvin H.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melvin H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No, the next thing--the grass--will require an environmental impact statement or two to mow, followed by the. Sierra Club suing to stop that, followed by appeals.....etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the next thing&#8211;the grass&#8211;will require an environmental impact statement or two to mow, followed by the. Sierra Club suing to stop that, followed by appeals&#8230;..etc.</p>
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		By: Advice Goddess Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Advice Goddess Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 06:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Can Life Not Go On Without Regulation?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Regulation is everywhere......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Can Life Not Go On Without Regulation?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Regulation is everywhere&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shoot feral cats:

First, the cats are not identified as feral cats but as descendants of a pet.
The museum appears to promote the cats as part of the Hemingway heritage.

In  your case, if you had 40-50 even feral cats which you fed and cared for  (as apparently the museum does) living on and overrunning your property, as a non-exhibitor you might be charged with cruelty to animals for failing to care for the cats or in one of  the wonderful twists of animal law, for failing to eradicate them.

There are plenty of news stories about &#039;cat ladies&#039; charged with this offense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot feral cats:</p>
<p>First, the cats are not identified as feral cats but as descendants of a pet.<br />
The museum appears to promote the cats as part of the Hemingway heritage.</p>
<p>In  your case, if you had 40-50 even feral cats which you fed and cared for  (as apparently the museum does) living on and overrunning your property, as a non-exhibitor you might be charged with cruelty to animals for failing to care for the cats or in one of  the wonderful twists of animal law, for failing to eradicate them.</p>
<p>There are plenty of news stories about &#8216;cat ladies&#8217; charged with this offense.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Nicholas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Nicholas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Duck, I&#039;m not sure I understand your point. Legislative actions aren&#039;t much of anything if a bureaucrat doesn&#039;t do something. What good is a law if the law isn&#039;t enforced by a government agent?

Citizens elected representatives; the representatives passed a law; the law was enforced. How else would you like it to work?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Duck, I&#8217;m not sure I understand your point. Legislative actions aren&#8217;t much of anything if a bureaucrat doesn&#8217;t do something. What good is a law if the law isn&#8217;t enforced by a government agent?</p>
<p>Citizens elected representatives; the representatives passed a law; the law was enforced. How else would you like it to work?</p>
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		By: DensityDuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DensityDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m okay with the court deciding to avoid judicial activism.

I&#039;m less okay with the fact that this is a regulatory action performed by the Federal bureaucracy, rather than a legislative action performed by the Congress.  As in most of these cases, none of the people involved have any reason to expect reprisal for their actions; even if all 350 million people in the United States hate them, they&#039;re guaranteed forty years behind the desk and a nice pension afterwards.  The closest we get to voting for the people going after Hemingway&#039;s cats is that their boss&#039;s boss&#039;s boss&#039;s boss is the President.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m okay with the court deciding to avoid judicial activism.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m less okay with the fact that this is a regulatory action performed by the Federal bureaucracy, rather than a legislative action performed by the Congress.  As in most of these cases, none of the people involved have any reason to expect reprisal for their actions; even if all 350 million people in the United States hate them, they&#8217;re guaranteed forty years behind the desk and a nice pension afterwards.  The closest we get to voting for the people going after Hemingway&#8217;s cats is that their boss&#8217;s boss&#8217;s boss&#8217;s boss is the President.</p>
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		By: Shoot Feral Cats		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shoot Feral Cats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, the museum website states they provide veterinary care. That put them in this stupid mess. 

Over &#039;n out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the museum website states they provide veterinary care. That put them in this stupid mess. </p>
<p>Over &#8216;n out.</p>
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