Comments on: N.Y.: “P.I. Lawyers Are Suspended for Encouraging Client to Lie” https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/05/n-y-p-i-lawyers-are-suspended-encouraging-client-lie/ Chronicling the high cost of our legal system Thu, 23 May 2013 13:42:07 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ed https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/05/n-y-p-i-lawyers-are-suspended-encouraging-client-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-215371 Thu, 23 May 2013 13:42:07 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=38552#comment-215371 The legal definition of Fraud: “A false representation of a matter of fact—whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of what should have been disclosed—that deceives and is intended to deceive another so that the individual will act upon it to her or his legal injury.”

Yes; they committed a crime, the fact that they got caught before the fraud was successful is irrelevant.

]]> By: Bumper https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/05/n-y-p-i-lawyers-are-suspended-encouraging-client-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-214961 Wed, 22 May 2013 02:46:50 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=38552#comment-214961 Well, Jerryskids, they did give Obama a Nobel prize for the judges thinking he was going to do something. Silly judges.

]]> By: No Name Guy https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/05/n-y-p-i-lawyers-are-suspended-encouraging-client-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-214831 Tue, 21 May 2013 19:13:29 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=38552#comment-214831 What we need is a board of engineers and doctors sitting as the disciplinary committee for lawyer misconduct.

Turn about would be oh so fair play.

]]> By: Jerryskids https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/05/n-y-p-i-lawyers-are-suspended-encouraging-client-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-214814 Tue, 21 May 2013 18:28:45 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=38552#comment-214814 Well, it’s not like they actually committed a crime.

“I am presently incarcerated, imprisoned for a crime I did not even commit. “Attempted murder,” now honestly, did they ever give anyone a Nobel prize for “attempted chemistry?”

/Sideshow Bob

]]> By: Jack Olson https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/05/n-y-p-i-lawyers-are-suspended-encouraging-client-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-214813 Tue, 21 May 2013 18:26:20 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=38552#comment-214813 When you ask lawyers to explain why their profession is so widely despised, they usually answer that this is the work of a small number of corrupt attorneys who ruin the reputation of the honest majority. Yet, when two corrupt attorneys get caught attempting fraud, they aren’t disbarred. They are suspended for only nine months, which is less time than they spent conducting a fraudulent lawsuit. If the other lawyers blame a corrupt few for the profession’s reputation for corruption yet allow those who get caught back into legal practice after a brief time-out, they must not much mind their corrupt reputation. If Ron Miller asks for a lawyer joke, try “professional discipline.”

]]> By: VMS https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/05/n-y-p-i-lawyers-are-suspended-encouraging-client-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-214805 Tue, 21 May 2013 17:56:27 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=38552#comment-214805 In New York a suspension for “only” 9 months really means several years. For suspensions of 6 months or less, the process to be reinstated is relatively streamlined and reinstatement is more or less automatic. These attorneys can first reapply after 9 months, but the review process comprising an application, a hearing, a report, etc. can take 2 years.

]]> By: Ron Miller https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/05/n-y-p-i-lawyers-are-suspended-encouraging-client-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-214747 Tue, 21 May 2013 14:40:23 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=38552#comment-214747 They blame youth and inexperience, lawyers rushed into business for themselves by an awful market for legal services. That makes sense… until you actually think about it. Experience as a lawyer does not make you more or less of an ethical person. Being a lawyer does not make you a better person. (Sure, feel free to fill in your own joke here.)

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