Comments on: Mom ate poppy seed dressing, state holds baby for 75 days

By: Jason Barney

Jason Barney — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 02:05:33 +0000

Yeah, you better be damn sure though, Pithlord, before you interfere with my child-parent relationship. Do that and get it wrong without due process and I’ll never let the issue go. We’re not talking a day or two to get things sorted out–over two months. Wrong.

By: Pithlord

Pithlord — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 00:18:35 +0000

Child protection isn’t easy and it is done by human beings. They can make mistakes both by interevning when they shouldn’t and not intervening when they should. Walter is a smart man, so I can’t believe he is offering in good faith the argument that some examples of wrongful intervention in a country of 250 million implies child protection is unnecessary.

By: Doug

Doug — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:54:12 +0000

almost all the CPS cases in which I was appointed either as GAL or attorney for a parent, there was the necessity of CPS intervention. often, if the parents were cooperative in rectifying the problems (not involving physical/sexual abuse) a court was never involved. Only when the parents did not cooperate or the abuse was horrific, did the court become involved. Lots of stupid or evil parents out there who allow children to be harmed.

By: blhlls

blhlls — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:06:31 +0000

Great unknown: Obviously different jurisdictions have different weaknesses. The fact remains in the ones I’ve worked in, the attorneys appointed to represent parents at the initial hearings know their stuff and so do the judges making the rulings. There is no “rubber stamp.” Instead there are often vigorously contested detention hearings with experienced counsel representing the parents and attorneys and judges who recognize that detention does its own harm even when it is necessary. Even when test results actually reflect a parent under the influence, the issue of whether the child can be adequately cared for is still vigorously litigated.

By: Jason Barney

Jason Barney — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 23:59:11 +0000

Silly, sure. But, in Washington State the CPS regularly gets hit for multi-million dollar verdicts for child abuse that could have been prevented if only the “warning signs” had been heeded. Any tiny little lead that gets no follow up–and the taxpayers get hit–and it seems like juries regularly disregard proximate cause defenses because the cases are so sympathetic.

By: John Burgess

John Burgess — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 23:15:14 +0000

Did the nation take a wrong turn when it turned against tar & feathers?

By: great unknown

great unknown — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:47:48 +0000

@Richard:
How often do masters and judges do anything but rubber-stamp CPS requests, absent a large public outcry? About as often as magistrates refuse to sign off on no-knock warrants.

By: david7134

david7134 — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 19:18:39 +0000

Richard, you also only here about the tip of the iceberg. Government social services are horrible and government in our lives is beyond belief. We need a free society.

By: Trumwill

Trumwill — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 17:48:24 +0000

Related: My coblogger is a family services lawyer and wrote "How to avoid getting your kids taken away if you’re a pot smoker."

By: David Smith

David Smith — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 17:43:55 +0000

Jeesus H. Keerist on flaming rubber crutches.