Comments on: A price tag for Arpaio’s journalist raid

By: TexJudge

TexJudge — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 17:14:38 +0000

This is a prime example of a grossly excessive settlement. What are the damages? No injuries and a brief stay in jail. I can see maybe $25,000 apiece at most. No private sector business would ever agree to this but here you have politicians with no bottom line to worry about so they get to play with other people’s money.

By: gitarcarver

gitarcarver — Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:50:53 +0000

It is clear that Mr. Olson doesn’t realize that the only reason why this agreement was reached was because of the pressure from the White House on Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse” looking into Obama’s birth certificate.

(and yes, that was sarcasm.)

By: Walter Olson

Walter Olson — Thu, 26 Dec 2013 14:31:48 +0000

JTW -- To get to the "gross and repeated" part, you might need to go past the incident of arresting journalists who'd been critical of Arpaio (despite the $3.75 million settlement you're willing to assume the journalists must have been guilty of something, which must ... simplify your view of press-state relations). You might want to check the years of stories about Arpaio and his now-disbarred county attorney sidekick, Andrew Thomas, right here on Overlawyered, or better yet (and for much more detail) check out what Arizona pro-freedom blogger Coyote has to say (follow the links, for example, from this paragraph:

When Arpaio is not busy arresting folks for breathing while Mexican (he once managed to make a crime sweep through the 99% Anglo neighborhood of Fountain Hills and arrest 75% Mexicans), he likes to haul folks off to jail whose only crime is speaking out against the Sheriff . He arrested (with Thomas's help) newspaper reporters and editors who wrote critically of him. This is a man who in his paranoia invented an assassination plot (against himself, of course) and got the city to spend $500,000 protecting him. If his deputies want to see a defense attorney's working papers, they just take them. If he can't get a judge to release computer records, he has his posse storm into the County computer center and take it over at gunpoint.

It's noteworthy that what finally got Arpaio in the most trouble was turning his abusive methods against other power-holders, specifically opponents on the county Board of Supervisors and a judge that had ruled against him.

By: JTW

JTW — Thu, 26 Dec 2013 12:59:17 +0000

So one incident of 2 journalists being arrested who later had to be let go is evidence of gross and repeated abuse of power?
I’d say it’s evidence of the long arm and big buying power of journalists that they can, despite being guilty as hell, get away with almost anything (and I’ve no doubt in my mind those journalists would have been guilty of things like trespassing, disturbing the peace, invasion of privacy, destruction of property, etc. etc. etc.).

By: ras

ras — Wed, 25 Dec 2013 00:16:18 +0000

Allan,

I’m pretty sure Stalin and his successors headed the Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics … and Hitler led a National Socialist party of some name or another … amongst many other examples.

Obscure historical references aside, Socialists are not the only repressors, just statistically the “most likely to attempt repression” in the 20th century. The Islamists appear to be making a move to win back the title this century though. Top-down, total control, highly-centralized power is the goal; the philosophy merely is its MacGuffin.

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 22:31:00 +0000

They keep re-electing him because most voters are not inconvenienced by his misconduct, and buy the constant but unsupported general assertions that he is “fighting the good fight.”

By: Allan

Allan — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 18:05:34 +0000

Why does this “smack” of “Socialist practice”?

I think the fascists did this. So did dictators. In fact, I think even Americans did this in the late 1700s and early 1800s. I am pretty sure the Communists in the USSR did this and the Communists in China, Cuba, and North Korea do this. Heck, even monarchies and theocracies engage in this practice. I am not aware of a “Socialist” government doing this.

Repressing the press is not the exclusive domain of any political group.

By: Igor

Igor — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:53:07 +0000

Regardless of Sheriff Joe Fighting the Good Fight, nobody should be arrested in the wee hours of oh-dark-thirty. This truly smacks of Socialist practice!

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

YMMV, but if he’s so abusive, why do the citizens keep re-electing him?!?

By: John Rohan

John Rohan — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:29:40 +0000

Keep in mind the context, though. Arpaio isn’t just fighting criminals. He is also constantly fighting the state and federal government who can’t stand that he actually tries to enforce laws against illegal immigration.

By: Bill Poser

Bill Poser — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 05:34:51 +0000

This incident would seem to provide an excellent basis for federal criminal prosecution of Arpaio under 18 US 241.