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	Comments on: Uninsured drivers: &#8220;no pay, no play&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Vern Dennis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vern Dennis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 00:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whether or not it would have an effect on uninsured drivers&#039; behavior is open to question, but it would at least punish some of them, and that&#039;s a good thing, no matter how you slice it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not it would have an effect on uninsured drivers&#8217; behavior is open to question, but it would at least punish some of them, and that&#8217;s a good thing, no matter how you slice it.</p>
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		By: DC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 22:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Responding to NL7, I&#039;d agree to a certain extent. But, I work in the insurance industry, and frankly, people who don&#039;t carry insurance just aren&#039;t going to do it whether they give up tort rights or not. Many argue they don&#039;t have the money to pay premiums, some just take the risk, etc. Our standing joke is that &quot;half of Indiana is uninsured, and they keep managing to hit our insureds&quot;. If someone is uninsured, that individual typically doesn&#039;t have any resources anyway. The best we can often do is obtain a judgment and get their license pulled. They just keep driving anyway. It&#039;s the harmed party that eats the cost (the insured loses on the deductible, the carrier loses on subrogating damages) when they shouldn&#039;t be.   How is it going to get enforced? When the accident happens or the individual gets pulled by law enforcement for valid reasons. And that&#039;s just Vegas odds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to NL7, I&#8217;d agree to a certain extent. But, I work in the insurance industry, and frankly, people who don&#8217;t carry insurance just aren&#8217;t going to do it whether they give up tort rights or not. Many argue they don&#8217;t have the money to pay premiums, some just take the risk, etc. Our standing joke is that &#8220;half of Indiana is uninsured, and they keep managing to hit our insureds&#8221;. If someone is uninsured, that individual typically doesn&#8217;t have any resources anyway. The best we can often do is obtain a judgment and get their license pulled. They just keep driving anyway. It&#8217;s the harmed party that eats the cost (the insured loses on the deductible, the carrier loses on subrogating damages) when they shouldn&#8217;t be.   How is it going to get enforced? When the accident happens or the individual gets pulled by law enforcement for valid reasons. And that&#8217;s just Vegas odds.</p>
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		By: Ron Miller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see traces of wisdom here but I don&#039;t like it.   It is punitive and it is not a proportional punishment.  Are we really going to give the drunk protection from liability when he paralyses someone he hits who was driving responsibly?   Maybe if you wanted to discount the value of his claim by the state minimum... well, I wouldn&#039;t support that but I would at least appreciate the logic.   This is a really good law until you think about if for more than 3 seconds.  Then it gets dumb.

 Do libertarians generally agree with the idea of mandatory insurance in the first place?   I would think punishing someone for not having insurance who was acting in a safe manner would be the opposite of the libertarian world view.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see traces of wisdom here but I don&#8217;t like it.   It is punitive and it is not a proportional punishment.  Are we really going to give the drunk protection from liability when he paralyses someone he hits who was driving responsibly?   Maybe if you wanted to discount the value of his claim by the state minimum&#8230; well, I wouldn&#8217;t support that but I would at least appreciate the logic.   This is a really good law until you think about if for more than 3 seconds.  Then it gets dumb.</p>
<p> Do libertarians generally agree with the idea of mandatory insurance in the first place?   I would think punishing someone for not having insurance who was acting in a safe manner would be the opposite of the libertarian world view.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the realities of life is that recovering damages from an uninsured driver is significantly more difficult than from an insured driver.  An uninsured driver reaps the benefits of others purchasing insurance if he is injured, but refuses to provide the same protection to those he might injure.  Arguably, the uninsured driver is recovering what he believes others should be able to recover if he injures them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the realities of life is that recovering damages from an uninsured driver is significantly more difficult than from an insured driver.  An uninsured driver reaps the benefits of others purchasing insurance if he is injured, but refuses to provide the same protection to those he might injure.  Arguably, the uninsured driver is recovering what he believes others should be able to recover if he injures them.</p>
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		By: nl7		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nl7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not a bad idea, but I&#039;m not sure it will have much salience on the decision to drive uninsured.  My own thought process is that the enforcement and ticketing is more imposing and much more likely to happen than the possibility of a bad accident without either legal recourse or insurance recourse.

The flawed tort system aside, this strikes me as a move to assist insurers - both to protect them from some suits and to encourage people to use the insurers&#039; already mandatory product.  This is a rather blunt instrument to partially accommodate for the shortcomings of tort suits.  And to the extent that the tort suit does work as advertised, it&#039;s unfair to pile exclusion from the legal system on top of the unfree  requirement of driving insurance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a bad idea, but I&#8217;m not sure it will have much salience on the decision to drive uninsured.  My own thought process is that the enforcement and ticketing is more imposing and much more likely to happen than the possibility of a bad accident without either legal recourse or insurance recourse.</p>
<p>The flawed tort system aside, this strikes me as a move to assist insurers &#8211; both to protect them from some suits and to encourage people to use the insurers&#8217; already mandatory product.  This is a rather blunt instrument to partially accommodate for the shortcomings of tort suits.  And to the extent that the tort suit does work as advertised, it&#8217;s unfair to pile exclusion from the legal system on top of the unfree  requirement of driving insurance.</p>
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